krishna bound

5y

the issue isnt really the constitution itself theoretically, its not like it can't be appended, it's that the powers that be in the nation are mix of A. purposefully malignant and B. f***ing ed about technology/anything digital and how it functions. seriously, go watch any of the congressional tech hearings. it's an absolute joke, both congressional democrats and republicans are absolutely blind and clueless

frank 2022

5y

Thats a good point, we should definitely have someone sifting through the news to tell us what the unquestionable, official truth is. Then we wouldn't even have to do any research or critical thinking ourselves! very convenient.

I say we delegate the responsibilities of truth reporting to the CIA. I mean.. its got intelligence in the name, theyve got to know what theyre talking about. no reason for them to lie to the general public.

hot pancakes

5y

Not what I meant though,

There are absolute sites set up to maliciously sway the American public.

I’ve seen satire right wing and left wing sites spewing absolutely garbage and people on both sides eating it up, creating further divide.

I want real unbiased news that doesn’t come from the government, but also doesn’t come from a foreign country looking to destabilize.

There are literally fake accounts set up to look like lefties, right wingers, black people white people, etc. And they all are trying to sway their respective groups one way. That should not be allowed at all. It’s a malicious attempt by foreign entities to continue to destabilize the American public

First Take

5y

He also wants to put Assange in prison

krishna bound

5y

yang has some decent policies and i think he's genuine in thinking he's doing what's right (as opposed to many other politicians running who have no real views outside of what corporate interests/establish tell them to do), but he has some downright dumbass policies on his website.

examples;
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/votingage/ - lowering vote age to 16
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/move-to-higher-ground/ - take bikini bottom and push it somewhere else
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/local-journalism-fund/ - additional grants for local journalism (asking for corruption/abuse)
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/american-journalism-fellows/ - somehow wanting to invest in "independent press" but also creating a nationalized pseudo-congressional journalist system?
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/modernize-voting/ - move our voting to the blockchain (yang pls dont fall for this meme)
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/media-fragmentation/ - literally create a task force funded by the government to coordinate with tech companies to universify what "truth" is
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/fight-white-nationalism-extremism/ - acting like the white nationalist groups are not already tracked by intelligence. incredibly vague policy
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/algorithmic-trading-fraud/ - as a tech guy you should know you can't just ban algorithms yang, it doesn't work that way
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/minimize-harm-of-modern-tech-on-our-children/ - "Create a Department of the Attention Economy that focuses specifically on how to responsibly design and use smartphones, social media, gaming, and chat apps. It will include overall guidelines, as well as age-based ones."
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/fight-the-spread-of-hateful-ideas/ - "Work with social media and hosting companies" last thing i want are tech firms working with the government to do f***ing anything that isn't some level of open/fair regulation
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/modern-time-banking/ - literal """optional""" government-funded/tracked social credit based system
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/prosperity-grants/ - asking to be abused

Korpse

5y

yea theres video of him saying something along those lines

krishna bound

5y

it's fundamentally impossible to fix this problem without changing on a foundational level how the internet works, such as requiring ID to use social media sites or something of the sort. part of the issue is that let's be honest, this isn't as much as solely technological issue - tech is simply facilitating a massive weakness in our culture. There's no real way of fixing it without taking massive authoritarian approaches (the outcome of which is debatable, i won't completely write off the theory), but that of which I doubt the general public will be okay with ever.

Korpse

5y

"Stop the spread of misinformation that is eroding trust in our institutions and fanning the flames of polarization in our society."

what words come to mind

hot pancakes

5y

Definitely not censorship lol

hot pancakes

5y

That’s a good point. I do agree it’s pretty much impossible to completely fix the issue with fake and antagonizing news / social media accounts, and I’m all for free and open internet, but there has to be something done.

Maybe periodic (monthly?) status updates / news letters from social media sites with tips to identify fake accounts and news outlets?

It’s pretty easy to do for a lot of us, but there are definitely people falling victim to the scam. And if social media sites like Facebook and Twitter post public status updates / news bulletins to all users on what to watch out for / how to identify a fake account, that may help some at least

hot pancakes

5y

Not what I meant though,

There are absolute sites set up to maliciously sway the American public.

I’ve seen satire right wing and left wing sites spewing absolutely garbage and people on both sides eating it up, creating further divide.

I want real unbiased news that doesn’t come from the government, but also doesn’t come from a foreign country looking to destabilize.

There are literally fake accounts set up to look like lefties, right wingers, black people white people, etc. And they all are trying to sway their respective groups one way. That should not be allowed at all. It’s a malicious attempt by foreign entities to continue to destabilize the American public

First Take

5y

“Stopping disinformation” sounds like a great idea but the problem is that the government decides what is disinformation. Which means they can just censor what they choose

Offline

5y

theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/02/chilling-singapores-fake-news-law-comes-into-effect

I agree the problem is the government could theoretically decide not only what counts as fake news but also what type of speech counts. Obviously Singapore is very different from the US, but they just put a fake news law in action.

First Take

5y

“If an action is judged to be malicious and damaging to Singapore’s interests, companies could be hit with fines of up to Sg$1m ($720,000), while individuals could face jail terms of up to 10 years.” Ridiculous

hot pancakes

5y

Y’all wanna keep getting trolled by fake news, Facebook pages, and twitter accounts?