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  • Aug 1, 2020
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    RASIE

    Explain

    Just watch their movies.

  • RASIE 🦦
    Aug 1, 2020
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    Wayne

    Just watch their movies.

    I have. You said they're better directors. Explain why.

  • Aug 1, 2020
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    RASIE

    I have. You said they're better directors. Explain why.

    Then watch again.

  • RASIE 🦦
    Aug 1, 2020
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    Wayne

    Then watch again.

    In other words, you cant actually describe why they're better — or even why you think they're better. You're just saying something hoping that people take it at face value because thats as deep as your thoughts go

  • Aug 1, 2020
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    RASIE

    In other words, you cant actually describe why they're better — or even why you think they're better. You're just saying something hoping that people take it at face value because thats as deep as your thoughts go

    Thats still deep enough to see that they are better

  • RASIE 🦦
    Aug 1, 2020
    Wayne

    Thats still deep enough to see that they are better

    Yawn

    Lemme know if you decide to actually say something

  • Aug 1, 2020
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    I respect Spike Lee as an artist,I also think he’s a great director in his own right but he has his flaws. Do The Right Thing,She Gotta Have It and Malcolm X will always be classic but a lot of his work is very exploitative towards people of color imo(see Rosie Perez discussing how she was crying and almost got her brother on Spike for that ice scene in Do The Right Thing). Also,he’s way too experimental in his films sometimes to resonate with black people like that,one of his biggest flaws imo.

    As a black artistic director,I think Charles Burnett beats Spike but I can see why someone would take Spike over him. Just my take

  • Aug 1, 2020
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    GUCCIGUCCI

    I would agree
    BUT Blackkklansman & Da 5 Bloods vs Hateful 8 and once upon a time

    Spike got him

    Strong disagree w those particular films but I’ll take Spike’s total output over that of QT

  • He’s been on a comeback with his last few films

  • RASIE 🦦
    Aug 1, 2020
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    gnarlynasty

    I respect Spike Lee as an artist,I also think he’s a great director in his own right but he has his flaws. Do The Right Thing,She Gotta Have It and Malcolm X will always be classic but a lot of his work is very exploitative towards people of color imo(see Rosie Perez discussing how she was crying and almost got her brother on Spike for that ice scene in Do The Right Thing). Also,he’s way too experimental in his films sometimes to resonate with black people like that,one of his biggest flaws imo.

    As a black artistic director,I think Charles Burnett beats Spike but I can see why someone would take Spike over him. Just my take

    Why wouldn't black people resonate with experimental films?

    And idk how much you've seen from Burnett, but he has multiple films that are way more experimental than anything Spike's done

  • Aug 1, 2020
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    RASIE

    Why wouldn't black people resonate with experimental films?

    And idk how much you've seen from Burnett, but he has multiple films that are way more experimental than anything Spike's done

    Not saying black people as a whole wouldn’t resonate with experimental films,we wouldn’t have Spike Lee if that was the case. There’s always an audience for everything. I’m saying that for entertainment purposes,a good number of black people don’t run to see Spike Lee,everyone knows Do The Right Thing tho.

    And I kinda do need to catch up on Burnett but the films I have seen makes me feel he’s extremely underrated.

  • RASIE 🦦
    Aug 1, 2020
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    gnarlynasty

    Not saying black people as a whole wouldn’t resonate with experimental films,we wouldn’t have Spike Lee if that was the case. There’s always an audience for everything. I’m saying that for entertainment purposes,a good number of black people don’t run to see Spike Lee,everyone knows Do The Right Thing tho.

    And I kinda do need to catch up on Burnett but the films I have seen makes me feel he’s extremely underrated.

    He is for sure (burnett i mean)

    But you could say that about audiences in general when it comes to relatively unconventional work from any director. The phrasing of "his films are too experimental to resonate with black people" just came off in the stereotypical "black people are a monolith" manner, even though I'm sure you're probably just generalizing your personal experiences/interactions.

    I mean, look at Tyler Perry's films, regardless of what you/others think about his films personally: His "Madea Cinematic Universe" films are edited and structured in a way that looks like almost nothing else in theaters or bigger streaming titles (not to mention the way dialogue is often delivered in them). They're far closer to a hyper-modern take on a soap opera than something that most would think of as "cinematic". But those films (and his others) are wildly successful with both black and white audience (and otherwise I'm sure). So successful that Perry's was able to secure a major chunk of film production lots and where filming activity happens in Atlanta, which has obviously been the "Hollywood away from Hollywood" for the past few years.

    I feel like these two ideas — "Spike being too experimental to resonate with a lot of black people" and "Tyler Perry's quick-staged soap opera assembly line style has made him hundreds of millions of dollars" — can't both be true.

  • Aug 1, 2020
    RASIE

    He is for sure (burnett i mean)

    But you could say that about audiences in general when it comes to relatively unconventional work from any director. The phrasing of "his films are too experimental to resonate with black people" just came off in the stereotypical "black people are a monolith" manner, even though I'm sure you're probably just generalizing your personal experiences/interactions.

    I mean, look at Tyler Perry's films, regardless of what you/others think about his films personally: His "Madea Cinematic Universe" films are edited and structured in a way that looks like almost nothing else in theaters or bigger streaming titles (not to mention the way dialogue is often delivered in them). They're far closer to a hyper-modern take on a soap opera than something that most would think of as "cinematic". But those films (and his others) are wildly successful with both black and white audience (and otherwise I'm sure). So successful that Perry's was able to secure a major chunk of film production lots and where filming activity happens in Atlanta, which has obviously been the "Hollywood away from Hollywood" for the past few years.

    I feel like these two ideas — "Spike being too experimental to resonate with a lot of black people" and "Tyler Perry's quick-staged soap opera assembly line style has made him hundreds of millions of dollars" — can't both be true.

    Yea man,I don’t generalizing but I’ve found that most people(black or white)like easy to digest entertainment and finds a lot of Lee’s work to be “too heavy” just to throw on at anytime and watch. I think that’s the genius Tyler Perry has in terms of filmmaking.

    His movies are terrible from a wide point of view but in his universe,for his audience,it’s exactly what they expect. Modern day Soap Operas are exactly what his films and shows are,he found his niche and just hammered it to death. And even though Perry has white fans,the majority of his audience is black and those black fans of Perry more than likely aren’t superfans or barely even fans of Lee besides a few films.

    Like I said,I hate generalizing but from my experience,most black people like films as entertainment before art and good amount of black people are gonna choose that Tyler Perry film over A Spike Lee Joint more often than not,there’s gonna always be outliers.

  • Aug 1, 2020
    Mango

    His best work

    Classic

  • Aug 1, 2020
    Einfinet

    Strong disagree w those particular films but I’ll take Spike’s total output over that of QT

    I’m just saying Spike’s last two films have been superb.

    Definitely got me back as a fan, because he was starting to miss HARD

  • Aug 1, 2020

    haven't seen many but blakkklansman was terrible

  • Aug 3, 2020

    He Got Game is a masterpiece

  • Aug 3, 2020

    Spike Lee is a GOAT

  • Aug 3, 2020
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    OP sounding type c***from Long Island who’s never met a black person in real life before

  • Aug 3, 2020