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  • rnb sponge 🧽
    Nov 10, 2020
    safe

    I’m not conservative at all but

    Defund the police

    • people misunderstand this and they get scared for their safety. Lots of crime issues and to them reducing funding for police is counterintuitive

    M4A

    • people think this will hurt the economy/cost too much. Also worry that it will result in a worse healthcare system and hurt jobs by getting rid of private insurance

    Schooling for all

    • assuming this is college it’s the same thing of people worried it’ll ruin the economy in terms of cost

    Student debt remove

    • as above. Honestly as left as I am even I’m not so sure about this

    Green new deal

    • environmental regulations hurt free business and by proxy hurt the economy is the argument against it

    bruh aint gonna be no economy if we dont f***ing regulate polluters these old mfs have no reason to be sayin what society should look like when they could go to the grocery store once and breath in a cough and be dead in 2 weeks

  • Nov 10, 2020
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    safe

    I just dont get it

    like sure maybe medicare 4 all in the future is better for reducing inequity and etc but in the short term a public option is viable, could pass congress and will get us a lot of the way there

    No, a public option will not pass congress lmao, and all a public option does is create a two tiered system.

  • Nov 10, 2020
    GIO GIO

    Not a conservative at all but I disagree with some progressive issues

    For healthcare, I think we should have a public option. I don't think we need to get rid of private health insurance that 200 million people have and like. I think those who need health insurance should have an option, but if you have money you want to spend on better private care, we should allow that. Public health care isn't great for everyone. My sister has been trying to get diagnosed for ADHD in Canada and they told her they're booked for appointments until next March, and she'll have to wait. This is common in all countries that have only public healthcare

    For paying off all student debt - why should the (poorer) 66% of Americans who don't go to college pay taxes that pay for the education of those who did go to college? Especially considering those who do go tend to make enough to pay it off? You're asking those who don't make as much money to pay off the college of those who are educated and get higher paying jobs. The average student debt is ~$30k. In the extreme cases, If you're spending $200k for a useless degree, that's somewhat self inflected. People go to school to become doctors/engineers/lawyers and you want uneducated people to pay off their loans? Rather than throwing money at the issue we need to look at the root of the problem, schools raising tuition because they can because they know you'll just take out a loan to deal with later, high interest rates. I don't have the perfect solution but I don't think paying off all student debt is the solution

    Weed as well as most other d**** should be legal and people locked up for weed need to be free. This one should be an easy one for everyone to agree on.

    A lot of progressive policies sound good at a surface level but looking at the details it quickly becomes more complicated that it sounds

    PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THEIR INSURANCE

    THEY LIKE THEIR DOCTORS

  • Nov 10, 2020

    f***ing neoliberal scum lmfao

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    here is the solution for student debt

    1. cancel all of it
    2. reparations for every student debt bill paid by anyone in the last however many years.
    3. College is now tuition free moving forward, grants for cost of living expenses.

  • Nov 10, 2020
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    I honestly think it comes down to three things

    1. some of you have never actually interacted with poor and working people
    2. some of you simply don't care
    3. both of those apply to you and you've never read a book or took the time to understand the positions in good faith, so you just repeat a bunch of nonsense over and over

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    it is f***ing sickening the absolute disdain the people on this website have for the lower and working class of society and any policy that may actually go about improving their material conditions. just admit you're bourgeiouse capitalist scum, and stop pretending to care.

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    I honestly think it comes down to three things

    1. some of you have never actually interacted with poor and working people
    2. some of you simply don't care
    3. both of those apply to you and you've never read a book or took the time to understand the positions in good faith, so you just repeat a bunch of nonsense over and over

    You are white and mooch off your parents. Try working loser

  • Nov 10, 2020
    Bill Ackman

    You are white and mooch off your parents. Try working loser

    Yet another loser with weird ass fantasies about my life.

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    No, a public option will not pass congress lmao, and all a public option does is create a two tiered system.

    And? If the public option is good why does it matter if it’s tiered

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    here is the solution for student debt

    1. cancel all of it
    2. reparations for every student debt bill paid by anyone in the last however many years.
    3. College is now tuition free moving forward, grants for cost of living expenses.

    How do you plan on paying for this

  • Nov 10, 2020
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    safe

    How do you plan on paying for this

    is this a rhetorical question?

  • Nov 10, 2020
    Donahuekirb

    is this a rhetorical question?

    What

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    it is f***ing sickening the absolute disdain the people on this website have for the lower and working class of society and any policy that may actually go about improving their material conditions. just admit you're bourgeiouse capitalist scum, and stop pretending to care.

    You’re such a f***ing loser lol. Nobody in this thread has advocated for anything that you’re b****ing about. In facts, the entire thread was essentially discussing policy that would help these groups you’re talking about. And you know what’s funny? You didn’t even vote! So you’re the one who doesn’t give a f*** about anybody but yourself and your little stupid politics gymnastics bullshit. We want UBI and a public option, you want to s***post about communism on a Kanye West forum because you have nothing better to do. There is no way you are an actual contributor to society because you post on this website non-stop, in every section, and somehow still, NOBODY likes you! Must be because you’re an insufferable c*** that is lashing out on the internet because you are a miserable f*** in real life. Guess what d***head, your selfishness and stubbornness are only hurting poor people who don’t give a f*** about what you think is best for them. You know why? Because you’re not poor and you never have been. So shut the f*** up already loser, thread has run its course and you missed your chance to give your awful opinions. Adults are having a discussion

  • Nov 10, 2020
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    safe

    And? If the public option is good why does it matter if it’s tiered

    because its not good. it shuffles all the sick and poor to it, driving up costs. and its f***ing pointless. health isn't a thing that should be attached to a profit motive.

  • Nov 10, 2020
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    Bill Ackman

    You’re such a f***ing loser lol. Nobody in this thread has advocated for anything that you’re b****ing about. In facts, the entire thread was essentially discussing policy that would help these groups you’re talking about. And you know what’s funny? You didn’t even vote! So you’re the one who doesn’t give a f*** about anybody but yourself and your little stupid politics gymnastics bullshit. We want UBI and a public option, you want to s***post about communism on a Kanye West forum because you have nothing better to do. There is no way you are an actual contributor to society because you post on this website non-stop, in every section, and somehow still, NOBODY likes you! Must be because you’re an insufferable c*** that is lashing out on the internet because you are a miserable f*** in real life. Guess what d***head, your selfishness and stubbornness are only hurting poor people who don’t give a f*** about what you think is best for them. You know why? Because you’re not poor and you never have been. So shut the f*** up already loser, thread has run its course and you missed your chance to give your awful opinions. Adults are having a discussion

    I feel incredibly sorry for you that you typed this.

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    I feel incredibly sorry for you that you typed this.

    I feel incredibly sorry for your failed journalism career. Eat a d*** loser

  • Nov 10, 2020
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    safe

    How do you plan on paying for this

    the federal government.

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    because its not good. it shuffles all the sick and poor to it, driving up costs. and its f***ing pointless. health isn't a thing that should be attached to a profit motive.

    What about all the countries with successful public option systems

    And how can you say the public option isn’t good when it doesn’t even exist at this stage? Why would a public option not be acceptable but Medicare for all somehow be a better plan for people?

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    the federal government.

    They already owe an absurd amount of national debt how do you think that’s gonna go

  • Nov 10, 2020
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    safe

    What about all the countries with successful public option systems

    And how can you say the public option isn’t good when it doesn’t even exist at this stage? Why would a public option not be acceptable but Medicare for all somehow be a better plan for people?

    because M4A, single payer, covers everyone, gives free at point of service care, and eliminates the profit motive.

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    safe

    They already owe an absurd amount of national debt how do you think that’s gonna go

    so theyll have more of this magical debt, who cares?

  • Nov 10, 2020
    Morenito

    I'm liberal

    college should be free, if Europeans can do it we can too

    America is the wealthiest country to ever exist in human history and spends almost a trillion on their military but we somehow can’t afford free healthcare or education for state funded schools

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    or just you know, like bernie said, a 4% income tax, tax the wealthy etc.,

  • Nov 10, 2020
    Bill Ackman

    I feel incredibly sorry for your failed journalism career. Eat a d*** loser

    lmao you been stalking me for like 6-7 years now. go get a life.

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