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  • Dec 31, 2023
    rustcohlestan

    this is a perfect time to promote one of my favorite songs of the year in a thread which got 0 replies

    https://ktt2.com/he-cant-get-in-he-aint-been-to-fendi-32563525

    !https://youtu.be/wxYePyR-DRg?si=rM8aazaonHxIcL3Z

    overmono

  • Dec 31, 2023

    Monoculture one especially & its not even used properly

    S*** makes no sense and is only thing with 25+ yeats old adults that are out of touch, depressed and alone completing their transformation into oldhead out of touch boomer status thay knows nothing that is going on in the mainstream and day to day trends of life but got so much to say about it and thinking theyre better

    Just like every other generation before us - time is a flat circle

  • Dec 31, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    nah, the genre is cooked and lots of y’all are responsible for it being cooked too

    it’s all good though we are moving to pop

    nah we moved onto ambient

  • Dec 31, 2023

    the conversation won’t end until the feeling is back

  • Dec 31, 2023
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    Valentine

    Mainstream hiphop isn’t reliant on stars from previous generations, again another disingenuous take.

    31/43 number one rap albums since 2020 have been from current generation artists

    There is no rap artist who feels as important as Kendrick drake j Cole since Kendrick drake j Cole

    There are reasons but I’ll leave it there

    There has to be a number one of the other rap albums that are released if the above names can only drop but so often

    no real new “big 3-5” like there were in every generation since “biggie Jay z or nas”

  • Dec 31, 2023
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    All the best rappers are the “old guys”

    Boomers rise up

  • Dec 31, 2023
    Bobby_96

    Which rappers who debuted in the last 6 years(basically 2017 to now) are dominating the genre rn?

    Carti but he’s in the Future lane where we love him but you don’t really like Carti because he’s lyrical so he not considered a “big 3” type act

  • Dec 31, 2023

    i WISH its the worst convo ever it literally pops up every gen and never goes away because theres some people always aging andd getting old, we had ONE slow year and everyone wanna say that bullshit its tired and old
    instead, why dont yall hop in those threads with small great fresh artists and stream those like 454, paris texas, kenny mason, k$upreme, MIKE cmon bro

  • Dec 31, 2023
    browser

    There is no rap artist who feels as important as Kendrick drake j Cole since Kendrick drake j Cole

    There are reasons but I’ll leave it there

    There has to be a number one of the other rap albums that are released if the above names can only drop but so often

    no real new “big 3-5” like there were in every generation since “biggie Jay z or nas”

    I would say Carti, Travis, Uzi/21/Yak been that for a minute now but to each their own I guess

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    internet forums were dominated by this same f***ing bullshit in 2012, in all the 2000s, in the 2016 soundcloud era

    Like can yall stop? We tired of old people having the exact same take as soon as a year slows down or gets tired. Every f***ing person on earth dropped in 2022, so yeah rap was slow in 2023. and im tired of these white video essayists talking about the state of the genre when their knowledge clearly doesnt extend beyond the average ktt poster.
    KTT users have been saying "rap is dying" "oh theres no new artists" and comparing it to the 2010s since 2020 and yall act like is some new andre schulz type realization every year, as if a completely new decade needs the same formula of new artists. Just understand yall aging and want this to happen.

  • Dec 31, 2023
    Bobby_96

    What do you think about KTT2's fave, Lil Yachty, saying what he said about the state of hip hop today.

    one of the corniest rappers alive and not nearly talented enough to have the ego he does

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    Bobby_96

    Which rappers who debuted in the last 6 years(basically 2017 to now) are dominating the genre rn?

    is it not possible it just takes longer to pop now and people dont throw out their old artists as much?

    Carti is dominating everyone, when keem drops hes huge, even though tyler debuted a while ago he only fr got reintroduced to this gen in 2017 and that was a whole rebranding,
    Ken carson,destroy lonely, yeat are all on a come up but yeat DOMINATED 2022 and a great chaos grew to be pretty massive in this last quarter
    JID is HIM and the only lyrical rapper that is HIM right now
    Yachty had a great year and his rap album will go nuts when it comes out
    Gunna is dominating

    theres a bigger shift than ever in generations, to those in older than 21 they may not be dominating but to the young generation LUCKI, Lone, Ken are the biggest artists in the world
    Keem is huge, and we had a lot of artists that may have missed their mark but they had a p great shot just fumbled, such as lil baby and dababy completely dominating everyone else in their respective primes.

    On top of that the idea of a single artist dominating is way less prevalent now because theres just way more music and the way streaming works people are in their own bubbles. Its not a matter of big 3 anymore. we arent selling records and taste crosses over less than ever.

    For 2003, the only artists dominating were almost all from the mid 90s, only exception is 50 and em. DOOM hadnt got his footing yet,and almost all the rest were underground. Ghostface had been around since the wu in the early 90s, scarface was from the mid 90s,nelly had 1-2 years, ja rule was all crossovers that lasted 1-2 years, like baby but with even less credit to their role
    Clipse had one hit song but far from dominating
    Outkast were from the mid 90s
    There was DMX? but almost everyone agrees he fell off in the 00s

    History repeating itself

    Don't forget we had an entire pandemic f*** up the whole momentum of music for a bit, newer artists are doing really well all things considered

  • Dec 31, 2023
    Shin Chan

    All the best rappers are the “old guys”

    Boomers rise up

  • Dec 31, 2023
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Please. Find something you like and make new memories to it. Stop comparing it to music you’ve already made memories to

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    Dec 31, 2023

    Got a good thread idea for 1/1/24

  • Dec 31, 2023
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    Andre Jaquet

    is it not possible it just takes longer to pop now and people dont throw out their old artists as much?

    Carti is dominating everyone, when keem drops hes huge, even though tyler debuted a while ago he only fr got reintroduced to this gen in 2017 and that was a whole rebranding,
    Ken carson,destroy lonely, yeat are all on a come up but yeat DOMINATED 2022 and a great chaos grew to be pretty massive in this last quarter
    JID is HIM and the only lyrical rapper that is HIM right now
    Yachty had a great year and his rap album will go nuts when it comes out
    Gunna is dominating

    theres a bigger shift than ever in generations, to those in older than 21 they may not be dominating but to the young generation LUCKI, Lone, Ken are the biggest artists in the world
    Keem is huge, and we had a lot of artists that may have missed their mark but they had a p great shot just fumbled, such as lil baby and dababy completely dominating everyone else in their respective primes.

    On top of that the idea of a single artist dominating is way less prevalent now because theres just way more music and the way streaming works people are in their own bubbles. Its not a matter of big 3 anymore. we arent selling records and taste crosses over less than ever.

    For 2003, the only artists dominating were almost all from the mid 90s, only exception is 50 and em. DOOM hadnt got his footing yet,and almost all the rest were underground. Ghostface had been around since the wu in the early 90s, scarface was from the mid 90s,nelly had 1-2 years, ja rule was all crossovers that lasted 1-2 years, like baby but with even less credit to their role
    Clipse had one hit song but far from dominating
    Outkast were from the mid 90s
    There was DMX? but almost everyone agrees he fell off in the 00s

    History repeating itself

    Don't forget we had an entire pandemic f*** up the whole momentum of music for a bit, newer artists are doing really well all things considered

    Brother, 6 years is 2017 to 2023. I never once said rappers who specifically blew up in the 2020's at all.

    Your whole point is somewhat invalidated by the fact that you totally misread me.

    But I guess "post Big 3/Blog Era" rappers made more sense for me to specify. It's about to be 2024 and Drake, Kendrick, Travis, Future, Nikki, and Cole are still bigger draws than many of today's rap superstars.

    Maybe the likes of Yeat, Ken Carson, Lucki, JID, Keem, Rod Wave, etc. will carry the genre on their back and uphold its mainstream popularity in the future but the stats ain't really lining up to that reality.

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    Bobby_96

    Brother, 6 years is 2017 to 2023. I never once said rappers who specifically blew up in the 2020's at all.

    Your whole point is somewhat invalidated by the fact that you totally misread me.

    But I guess "post Big 3/Blog Era" rappers made more sense for me to specify. It's about to be 2024 and Drake, Kendrick, Travis, Future, Nikki, and Cole are still bigger draws than many of today's rap superstars.

    Maybe the likes of Yeat, Ken Carson, Lucki, JID, Keem, Rod Wave, etc. will carry the genre on their back and uphold its mainstream popularity in the future but the stats ain't really lining up to that reality.

    no you were very clear, I just very clearly dismantled what you said and you brushed past the entire thing. Nobody misread anything, I attacked how this question is misguided and plenty are dominating now.

    Nicki isnt dominating s***, cole hasnt dropped in 3 years
    I knew you were gonna say kendrick travis and drake are popping, thats literally irrelevant to what you were saying though older rappers doing well doesnt maen anything to what i said
    adress everything i said
    AND BY THE WAY, dominance isnt just measured by sales. This is a new thought, sosa was a dominant force in the early 10s, finally rich sold only 1k more than ken carson did this year
    Of course the established rappers with years of label power behind them especially a force like drake is gonna sell the most. The realness of sales nowadays is even being disputed. But yes they are the biggest, doesnt discredit the new artists who arent even supposed to be the biggest. Again it takes more time to pop now

  • Dec 31, 2023

    Does anyone else just not care whether the genre is ‘hot’ or not? That will not stop the music and if anything filter out the outsiders using it as a free meal ticket and jumping ship from the ones in it for the craft

    I know how surface level of a take this is but it’s true

  • Dec 31, 2023
    rustcohlestan

    oh great yeah imma the word of a mustache wearing c***named patrick cc that rap is dead because algorithm bad and also called the soundcloud rapper era the last great rap era. never put him in my threads again

    i salute ur integrity

  • Dec 31, 2023
    Bobby_96

    It started when Billboard themselves highlighted a notable decline in sales and charting success.

    Obviously, underground/Indie rap will always pull its weight when it comes to quality hip hop and I ironically get called a hipster sometimes for pointing that out.

    But, if mainstream rap is starting to lack in both quality and commercial success, that's actually not a good sign for the genre.

    That's the main reason why Juicy J and Ebro sounded off the alarms.

    Hell, even KTT's fave, Lil Yachty, basically said that hip hop fell off and ya'll d***rode him for saying something that would be considered "dusty" and "out of touch" if Joe Budden said the same exact thing.

    https://www.complex.com/music/a/markelibert/lil-yachty-says-hip-hop-is-in-a-terrible-place-right-now

    lil yachty is not my fave!

  • Dec 31, 2023
    Childhood

    pairing morgan wallen as equivalent to barbie and gta 6 lmao give me a f***ing break

    never heard of the guy in my life

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    i mean both actually pretty dead and a handful of anomalous events are not proof otherwise @op. haven’t seen barbie nor oppenheimer myself nor have i listened to a note of morgan wallen willingly. but i agree it’s a topic that’s been talked about to death and is annoying to hear the phrases regurgitated over and over as opposed to, you know, solutions or alternatives being proposed or just realizing it’s not THAT serious to begin with and is essentially another result of late capitalism eating itself as it was always wont to do

    i for one hardly listen to anything what’s charting so idc either way, a lot of great stuff came out this year in every corner outside of the mainstream

  • Dec 31, 2023

    seeing paragraphs of texts coping

  • Dec 31, 2023

    people cant not discuss redundant dumb s*** they think they know anything about any year

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    OddRah

    this whole rap dead thing is so overstated. Idk why yall let billboard tell yall whats going up. Like the whole way they determine album sales is made up by them and yall let them trick yall into thinking that a whole genre is dead despite amazing projects coming out this year. Honestly this whole using numbers to determine who's best is some nerd s***. Yes mainstream rap is stale right now mfs acting like it wasnt like this back in 08'-09' before drake, wale, kid cudi started coming up.

    Theres no equivalent of 08-09 wayne in 2023