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  • Aug 12, 2020
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    DwindlingSun

    Which of the 25 allegations are you talking about?

    all of them had about as much substance to it as the allegations against Biden. Yet we only took those 25 seriously lmao

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    Buckleys Angel

    Trump has literally admitted to watching children change and bragged about how he’s so famous that he can grab women by the p**** and they won’t do anything about it

    and Biden inappropriately touches women in public events

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    I do think it's important to account for context and shifts like this. 94 was nearly 30 years ago. IIRC Obama was against gay marriage when he ran in 08. People's ideals and understandings change. I think it's important to judge people based on the person they currently are and the views they currently hold instead of those they once held. Just make sure you keep that same energy universally

  • ThuggerBaby

    and Biden inappropriately touches women in public events

    Ok and every woman who has ever called him out for that has insisted that it was never sexual.

    The fact that you’re even trying to compare that to Trump bragging about how he gets away with assaulting women really says all we need to know about you.

  • Aug 12, 2020
    ThuggerBaby

    all of them had about as much substance to it as the allegations against Biden. Yet we only took those 25 seriously lmao

    I suggest you read more deeply if you truly believe the allegation against Biden is anywhere near quantifiable to those against Trump

  • Aug 12, 2020
    ThuggerBaby

    hilarious to see media and liberals attack Trump for years for sexual harassment and rape allegations and now sweep it under a rug and dismiss the allegations on Biden. They quiet on Kamala Harris's bootlicker tendencies as well but loved to talk about Pence's past with promoting gay conversion therapy.

    Mainstream media same s*** as Fox News. All fake

    You are not thinking straight if you think the evidence of sexual misconduct from trump vs from Biden is comparable

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    MCN

    I do think it's important to account for context and shifts like this. 94 was nearly 30 years ago. IIRC Obama was against gay marriage when he ran in 08. People's ideals and understandings change. I think it's important to judge people based on the person they currently are and the views they currently hold instead of those they once held. Just make sure you keep that same energy universally

    except biden has no interest in apologizing for it, has no interest in coming to terms with how it was racist, and no interest in doing anything meaningful to rectify the situation. we have no evidence that anything he says now regarding policy is born out of any sort of reconciliation or remorse for past positions, and not political expediency

  • Aug 12, 2020

    "He advocated for black incarceration BUT at least it helped women"

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    @BA you made a friend in here

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    Trump is just a talking head, biden is really bout it

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    Cudderwalks

    @BA you made a friend in here

    You found another buddy to post right wing talking points to own the libs

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    Buckleys Angel

    You found another buddy to post right wing talking points to own the libs

    Senator Biden called Obama “the first clean African American candidate”
    cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama

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    Cudderwalks

    Senator Biden called Obama “the first clean African American candidate”
    https://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/31/biden.obama/

    And then even Jesse Jackson defended him and said that people took it out of context.

    You’re really running out of material...

  • Aug 12, 2020
    Synopsis

    except biden has no interest in apologizing for it, has no interest in coming to terms with how it was racist, and no interest in doing anything meaningful to rectify the situation. we have no evidence that anything he says now regarding policy is born out of any sort of reconciliation or remorse for past positions, and not political expediency

    well said. I agree

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    Part of the problem is him still defending signing it. The results were disastrous, as OP admits. Not recognizing that is a red flag.

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    Mango

    Part of the problem is him still defending signing it. The results were disastrous, as OP admits. Not recognizing that is a red flag.

    He's defended certain elements, he's acknowledged critiques as legitimate, and continued his opposition to the 3 strikes amendment.

    It's not nuanced enough to simply state that he's defended it.

    We know how his criminal justice reform platform is shaping up this year and it's clearly evident of a shift.

    And any idea along the lines of 'well we don't know if that's out of righteousness or just political gamesmanship' is an absurd justification for casting doubt.

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    DwindlingSun

    He's defended certain elements, he's acknowledged critiques as legitimate, and continued his opposition to the 3 strikes amendment.

    It's not nuanced enough to simply state that he's defended it.

    We know how his criminal justice reform platform is shaping up this year and it's clearly evident of a shift.

    And any idea along the lines of 'well we don't know if that's out of righteousness or just political gamesmanship' is an absurd justification for casting doubt.

    We know how his criminal justice reform platform is shaping up this year and it's clearly evident of a shift.

    His VP is a prosecutor lol.

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    Mango

    We know how his criminal justice reform platform is shaping up this year and it's clearly evident of a shift.

    His VP is a prosecutor lol.

    Has no bearing on what the Dems platform is.

    And again, your statement is mighty reductive.

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    DwindlingSun

    Has no bearing on what the Dems platform is.

    And again, your statement is mighty reductive.

    His platform has little bearing on what will happen under his presidency. Proof being the administration he was part of whose laurels he is propping himself up with.

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    Mango

    His platform has little bearing on what will happen under his presidency. Proof being the administration he was part of whose laurels he is propping himself up with.

    That isn't a valid argument though against his platform. We don't have the foresight to know what he will or will not implement. All we can go off is that it exists and contains positives.

    I don't know what we're expecting otherwise at this stage. The same argument by your criteria could be levied at every president and every candidate there's been all the world over. It doesn't achieve anything.

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    DwindlingSun

    That isn't a valid argument though against his platform. We don't have the foresight to know what he will or will not implement. All we can go off is that it exists and contains positives.

    I don't know what we're expecting otherwise at this stage. The same argument by your criteria could be levied at every president and every candidate there's been all the world over. It doesn't achieve anything.

    He's been in national politics since the early 70s. His own running mate characterized his early time in the senate as sandbagging desegregation. His entire political career is context and trajectory pointing towards his presidency.

    I have a hard time believing you don't know this.

  • Aug 12, 2020
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    Mango

    He's been in national politics since the early 70s. His own running mate characterized his early time in the senate as sandbagging desegregation. His entire political career is context and trajectory pointing towards his presidency.

    I have a hard time believing you don't know this.

    Politics and people are not static.

    Biden did not oppose segregation.

    And why are you acting like Kamala Harris is the first politician to have cultivated an argument to favour their ends at the time?