Feb 20·1 reply
saint dot edumistthe solution though is to dig for obscure s*** and flip more creatively
sometimes a sample is fine as is however
Or hire actual musicians, create your own sample library a la Frank Dukes, DJ Khalil... best route imo
Feb 20it sucks for dudes who dont get paid off of music and things like lou reed owning 100% of royalties from can i kick it is kinda crazy
but also here bro paid 600k for a song that apparently feeds his family to this day and can continue making money off of it. you could say its only right
Feb 20·edited·7 replies
Skateboard JThe whole “sample snitching” thing is just pure greed and selfishness. If you’re just making the song to make it then it’s w/e. But niggas think they entitled to reap the benefits while never having to give someone else their cut for using their work.
inb4 it’s the labels and not the artists who own the samples 🤓
The copyright laws and precedents that are used in court around this are extremely inconsistent and only singled out hip hop sampling because of its cultural origins. If it had only been Aphex Twin types sampling, then the whole legality of it would have evolved differently because they wouldn’t have went after them the same way
Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use, but sampling some of a record isn’t?
I never hear of visual artists being sued for collage art either. And it would appear that Electronic artists are way more likely to get a pass than hip hop artist. Gee I wonder why?
The music industry panicked when sampling started and basically lobbied to get the US courts to be inconsistent with the fair use law and it worked. Sampling should absolutely be covered under fair use if you read the law. But they arbitrarily set a precedent that it doesn’t apply because THEY were greedy
De La Soul wasn’t taking no money out of The Monkees pockets, STOP THE MADNESS
- Feb 20·4 replies
People on a hip hop forum caping for sample snitching and madder at old heads than the racist court system and laws that forced them to be this way and create these codes!
ITS OVER. We are f***ing cooked wtf y’all doing. Definition of lost the plot. @ the entire first page
- Feb 20
The crazy thing is music is so abstract that it’s really easy to manipulate in court. The idea that de la soul using a literal second or two of a song for a completely unique piece wouldn’t fall under fair use which simply requires being transformative with your use of material, is absolutely insane. It was transformative clearly. And that’s one of the ones that set the precedent that music sampling isn’t fair use and you need THEIR permission
Feb 202wordsThe copyright laws and precedents that are used in court around this are extremely inconsistent and only singled out hip hop sampling because of its cultural origins. If it had only been Aphex Twin types sampling, then the whole legality of it would have evolved differently because they wouldn’t have went after them the same way
Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use, but sampling some of a record isn’t?
I never hear of visual artists being sued for collage art either. And it would appear that Electronic artists are way more likely to get a pass than hip hop artist. Gee I wonder why?
The music industry panicked when sampling started and basically lobbied to get the US courts to be inconsistent with the fair use law and it worked. Sampling should absolutely be covered under fair use if you read the law. But they arbitrarily set a precedent that it doesn’t apply because THEY were greedy
De La Soul wasn’t taking no money out of The Monkees pockets, STOP THE MADNESS
Real
Feb 202wordsPeople on a hip hop forum caping for sample snitching and madder at old heads than the racist court system and laws that forced them to be this way and create these codes!
ITS OVER. We are f***ing cooked wtf y’all doing. Definition of lost the plot. @ the entire first page
u raw af 4 this
Feb 20SALUTE THE LEGEND
- Feb 20·1 reply2words
People on a hip hop forum caping for sample snitching and madder at old heads than the racist court system and laws that forced them to be this way and create these codes!
ITS OVER. We are f***ing cooked wtf y’all doing. Definition of lost the plot. @ the entire first page
Sometimes I skip a 1st page. Glad I did here
DJ Muggs is a goat and if they don't respect it, they ain't real hip-hop heads
Full stop
Feb 20
propers/o all my sample snitchers if u can’t stand sample snitching go pick up an instrument and learn some music theory or else we suing
Anti Hip Hop Metalhead argument
- Feb 20Skateboard J
The whole “sample snitching” thing is just pure greed and selfishness. If you’re just making the song to make it then it’s w/e. But niggas think they entitled to reap the benefits while never having to give someone else their cut for using their work.
inb4 it’s the labels and not the artists who own the samples 🤓
But it is the labels who own the samples lmao
- Feb 202words
The copyright laws and precedents that are used in court around this are extremely inconsistent and only singled out hip hop sampling because of its cultural origins. If it had only been Aphex Twin types sampling, then the whole legality of it would have evolved differently because they wouldn’t have went after them the same way
Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use, but sampling some of a record isn’t?
I never hear of visual artists being sued for collage art either. And it would appear that Electronic artists are way more likely to get a pass than hip hop artist. Gee I wonder why?
The music industry panicked when sampling started and basically lobbied to get the US courts to be inconsistent with the fair use law and it worked. Sampling should absolutely be covered under fair use if you read the law. But they arbitrarily set a precedent that it doesn’t apply because THEY were greedy
De La Soul wasn’t taking no money out of The Monkees pockets, STOP THE MADNESS
- Feb 202words
People on a hip hop forum caping for sample snitching and madder at old heads than the racist court system and laws that forced them to be this way and create these codes!
ITS OVER. We are f***ing cooked wtf y’all doing. Definition of lost the plot. @ the entire first page
Easily the worst first page I‘ve seen in a long time
- Feb 20·edited·2 replies
Mfs read one music theory book and start s***ting on orthodox boom bap producers tf are y‘all on
- Feb 20·1 replyLil Uzi Horizontal
Sometimes I skip a 1st page. Glad I did here
DJ Muggs is a goat and if they don't respect it, they ain't real hip-hop heads
Full stop
might start skipping 1st pages too tbh
- Feb 20xxxkiraxxx· edited
Mfs read one music theory book and start s***ting on orthodox boom bap producers tf are y‘all on
Feb 20·1 reply2wordsThe copyright laws and precedents that are used in court around this are extremely inconsistent and only singled out hip hop sampling because of its cultural origins. If it had only been Aphex Twin types sampling, then the whole legality of it would have evolved differently because they wouldn’t have went after them the same way
Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use, but sampling some of a record isn’t?
I never hear of visual artists being sued for collage art either. And it would appear that Electronic artists are way more likely to get a pass than hip hop artist. Gee I wonder why?
The music industry panicked when sampling started and basically lobbied to get the US courts to be inconsistent with the fair use law and it worked. Sampling should absolutely be covered under fair use if you read the law. But they arbitrarily set a precedent that it doesn’t apply because THEY were greedy
De La Soul wasn’t taking no money out of The Monkees pockets, STOP THE MADNESS
“Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use”
It is not fair use, the system is just slow on the visual part of things.I made a music video where I used footage from the animated series “The MAXX” and it got pulled down every time I uploaded it because the rights belonged to , I think, Warner Brothers
- Feb 20MyLeftBrain
“Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use”
It is not fair use, the system is just slow on the visual part of things.I made a music video where I used footage from the animated series “The MAXX” and it got pulled down every time I uploaded it because the rights belonged to , I think, Warner Brothers
Not saying it’s not a thing at all, and I know there’s issues with the automation of that stuff too, but it seems to be much more common for “fair use” to allow for that type of content than it allows for sampling in music. It seems to just be accepted that fair use is not a thing at all as far as music sampling
Feb 20·1 replyI knew better then to step foot into this vile thread
- Feb 20·1 reply
Drummer behind “the Amin break” died homeless and never got a dollar despite being the most sampled drummer ever.
Don’t feel right
reddit.com/r/DnB/comments/2wjvz6/gregory_coleman_the_drummer_that_played_the_amen
- proper 🔩Feb 20·1 replyxxxkiraxxx
Mfs read one music theory book and start s***ting on orthodox boom bap producers tf are y‘all on
that post was a joke i thought it was obvs but apparently not yikes
- proper 🔩Feb 20
never read a book about music theory in my life tbh
- Feb 20·1 replyproper
that post was a joke i thought it was obvs but apparently not yikes
Was talking bout first page in general but I appreciate your irony mb
Feb 20Sampling deals is way easier and encouraged now - yoi could have fixed it later especially after the 3 year law
And its not anyones fault that knows your buisness
The internet and fans will always be internet and fans, they are not artists
Feb 20MyLeftBrainI think you right
He would let it slide if sampled him and made a smashHe's been there and done that.
And he's still screaming no sample snitching. So what now? He's right.