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3mo

Not everyone has to know everything, unless an artist strictly points out what they sampled or its in the writing credits, why do we need 10-20 minute videos giving out the magic?

MyLeftBrain

3mo

Drummer behind “the Amin break” died homeless and never got a dollar despite being the most sampled drummer ever.

Don’t feel right

https://www.reddit.com/r/DnB/comments/2wjvz6/gregory_coleman_the_drummer_that_played_the_amen/

Pokerking4128

3mo

Before I checked Whosampled, I thought it was Jeff Bhasker singing

2words

3mo

The copyright laws and precedents that are used in court around this are extremely inconsistent and only singled out hip hop sampling because of its cultural origins. If it had only been Aphex Twin types sampling, then the whole legality of it would have evolved differently because they wouldn’t have went after them the same way

Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use, but sampling some of a record isn’t?

I never hear of visual artists being sued for collage art either. And it would appear that Electronic artists are way more likely to get a pass than hip hop artist. Gee I wonder why?

The music industry panicked when sampling started and basically lobbied to get the US courts to be inconsistent with the fair use law and it worked. Sampling should absolutely be covered under fair use if you read the law. But they arbitrarily set a precedent that it doesn’t apply because THEY were greedy

De La Soul wasn’t taking no money out of The Monkees pockets, STOP THE MADNESS

Laced

3mo

A lot of producers seem to have that mindset too and it's corny af. Like...niggas ain't making nothing to try and impress u or any other producer, we making s*** that sounds good. Doesn't matter if it's "just a loop" or not. Cause outside of that elitist "producer" community, nobody else gives a f*** how many times u chopped that one sample up lmao. And a lot of the times trying to force the chop is going to make it sound worse. But niggas be so scared to just leave s*** as "just a loop" cause of these niggas

Midzy

3mo

You should be able to get sued for more than you made off the song if you sampled illegally

He's lucky

EliminationofDrake

3mo

The kind of grotesque anti hip hop take only a K-pop avi could make

insertcoolnamehere

3mo

@2words and the rest of this thread eurostepping tf outta this like a mf lol

Marleezy

3mo

Or hire actual musicians, create your own sample library a la Frank Dukes, DJ Khalil... best route imo

insertcoolnamehere

3mo

Why is youtubers making content of a collage of movie footage fair use, but sampling some of a record isn’t?
I never hear of visual artists being sued for collage art either.

Because youtubers and visual artists aren’t making the type of money that rappers can make off of samples but u know that already. (“But ajani they are making money” bro artists hate youtube as far as payment comes)

Electronic artists, just like hip hop artists, depends on who can get caught of not. Niggas itt let you rock with that bs point like fatboy slim didnt have to give up 100% (yes 100%) of his credits for rockefeller skank to be released. Just like alchemist never gets caught even tho he obviously samples a lotta s***, some people just slide by.

But the De La Soul situation had less to do with sample s*** and more to do with having a s***tttty as f*** label that “claimed” it wasnt worth attempting to clear all the samples to begin with you f***ing lying piece of s***.

Meanwhile a bunch of folks that hankered down and did it a couple years ago did it and guess what 95% of their catalog is on streaming basically untouched (which we cant say the same for others: e.g. Big Krit man them remastered mixtapes break my heart)

At the end of the day, nobody is even saying “producers dont sample period!” Like yeah thats what hip hop started on (and djs were chopping s*** up tho ) but it always has and it always is gonna be a game of catch me if you can. Niggas post mad samples on whosampled but nigga unless you blow up type juice wrld aint nobody gonna give a s*** dawg. All these underground niggas can stop shaking in they boots clipping a man that “got snitched on” one of the biggest songs of literally all time man what???

GoodbyeCarl

3mo

I'm on the side that a sample should be noted, but it should not be forcing the producer a payout of more than 1% to the original artist. At least some money is flowing back, and it doesn't stop creativity

GoodbyeCarl

3mo

I'm on the side that a sample should be noted, but it should not be forcing the producer a payout of more than 1% to the original artist. At least some money is flowing back, and it doesn't stop creativity

notbrock

3mo

And what if the label owns the song that got sampled and not the actual artist?

2words

3mo

People on a hip hop forum caping for sample snitching and madder at old heads than the racist court system and laws that forced them to be this way and create these codes!

ITS OVER. We are f***ing cooked wtf y’all doing. Definition of lost the plot. @ the entire first page

Midzy

3mo

You should be able to get sued for more than you made off the song if you sampled illegally

He's lucky

insertcoolnamehere

3mo

An underrated part of this discussion is how severe the death of mixtapes hurt hip hop/sampling as a whole.

Zalaianaese

3mo

Nice idea and all but your perspective will change once you try and drop an album sampling vocals or beats from these old school rappers ...

Go sample Cypress hill, old bad boy records or 36 Mafia and your song ends up a hit do you think there going to sit there and say "wow glad they paying homage to us" no nigga they getting the lawyer on the phone that second