probably going to delete this soon cause every argument on ktt results in ppl bringing up threads you have made to use as ammunition but i deadass want to kill myself i cant f***ing sleep at night i get to fall asleep 4 out of the 7 days a week usually the other times i cant my body wont let me create a cohesive sleeping schedule. I cant seem to hold down a regular job because of it i am in a currently living in a really toxic situation i gotta move out soon somehow and medication seems to make me rlly groggy and depressed and no one understands i just moved back in with my family and i hate them all except my mom they are riding my ass these days idk what to do boys op down bad

before you say "have you tried ____? it helps me sleep" just know i have tried everything i have had insomnia since i was 10 lol thx tho <3

I know you wrote that you have tried everything, but I still want to ask one thing. Have you been to a sleep clinic? I hope you will feel better.

ya ive been going to them since i was young they just try to give me different d**** and if i try to talk about the problems related to not sleeping they try to put me in camh or some kind of mental institution like im f***ed up but not that f***ed up u feel me? lol thx man

Just relax and close your eyes dude

Exercise and get exhausted lol you will crash trust

What's the problem related to it?

I get lots of exercise it does help! I’m trying to a bit less these days to keep the calories cause I’m very thin but this fir sure helps just not enough unfortunately

Allot of mental illnesses come from not sleeping as you could imagine :/

hilarious!

yes op literally my last attempt had a lot to do with this. i'm sure if i could get mend my sleep issues my mental health would improve so much.

One time I had an iced mocha from McDonald’s at like 10pm and then I couldn’t sleep

Work out until exhaustion everyday

Go to the gym
Get sunlight
Eat properly

life is sweet or whatever, baby

I know u tried everything u said but to make sure have u tried cutting out screen time a hour-couple hours before u go to sleep?

Yeah most people get mad at these suggestions, but they are good for a base level of health.

Cause a lot of people with mental issues have a hard time doing self care with the basics

If you don't fix this then you'll be in a loop trying to fix everything at once

Yeah it’s surprising the immediate impact just fixing those things has

Get sunlight and take off the blue light on ur ohones and laptops

I'm in the same boat as you @op. I can never sleep more than an hour at a time and it takes me like 1-2 hours to fall asleep every night. truly soul crushing to live with insomnia. Been to 3 psychiatrists, 2 neurologists, 2 sleep therapists, have tried Ambien, klonopin, lunesta, trazadone, melatonin, gabapentin, lightbox therapy, everything - you name it. the only thing I haven't tried and this is my last resort is a sleep study as I think I may have sleep apnea contributing to the insomnia.

Fascinating how OP will explicitly mention to not do the "well just do x" thing, but people do it anyway. You're not doctors and OP has likely already tried all those things if he's having damn suicidal thoughts.

Really sorry about your condition though yo. Can't imagine what its like to not sleep when you need to and the impact it has on your life. On the bright side 4 days out of the week is pretty good for that disorder, and maybe it'll get better with years and time. Sounds like you need a therapist though. A therapist and some financial and residential independence.

I just did a google search out of curiosity though, and learned that there are a lot of A list celebrities with insomnia as well, like Rihanna, George Clooney, and even Madonna. So hey, its not the end of the world.

I only said work out to exhaustion because it’s a different kind of rest. Your body NEEDS and CRAVES rest if you’re pushing yourself like that

you're doing it too though

"sounds like you need a therapist"

also insomnia is an extremely complex disorder with a multivariate pathology. it's naïve of OP to assume he has exhausted every single treatment possible for something like insomnia just because he's had it since he was 10.