Oct 26, 2020·1 reply
genghiskhartiyea nobody does a milli anymore
Only 4 rappers in history have done it to begin with lol. And the only rapper in the last decade to have an iconic run like 50, Em or Wayne did it (Drake)
safe 🪩Oct 26, 2020·4 replies
Snow Tha GOATwhat do you think scorpion wouldve done if it dropped in lets say 2010
2010 probably 1.2m ish
But if we go back pre Internet piracy that’s getting close to 2m+
Think of it this way
My most streamed album of this year is After Hours and I’ve listened to songs from it about 500 times (song plays)I’m an absolute outlier in how much I’ve listened to this album. I’m a huge Weeknd fan and it’s one of my favorite albums this year
I haven’t even contributed HALF of an album sale to The Weeknd yet
But if I could only get it by CD you bet I’m contributing a full album sale on the first week
Oct 26, 2020Tgtkftiwb19They will continue to decline if more rappers keep making albums just for streaming numbers instead of focusing on making a great album that you want to listen to from beginning to end.
Feels like ppl just take 4-5 songs from an album and make their own playlist these days anyway instead of running it front to back
Oct 26, 2020safe2010 probably 1.2m ish
But if we go back pre Internet piracy that’s getting close to 2m+
Think of it this way
My most streamed album of this year is After Hours and I’ve listened to songs from it about 500 times (song plays)I’m an absolute outlier in how much I’ve listened to this album. I’m a huge Weeknd fan and it’s one of my favorite albums this year
I haven’t even contributed HALF of an album sale to The Weeknd yet
But if I could only get it by CD you bet I’m contributing a full album sale on the first weekexactly
- Oct 26, 2020·1 replygenghiskharti
yea nobody does a milli anymore
only 4 rappers have
- Oct 26, 2020·1 replysafe
2010 probably 1.2m ish
But if we go back pre Internet piracy that’s getting close to 2m+
Think of it this way
My most streamed album of this year is After Hours and I’ve listened to songs from it about 500 times (song plays)I’m an absolute outlier in how much I’ve listened to this album. I’m a huge Weeknd fan and it’s one of my favorite albums this year
I haven’t even contributed HALF of an album sale to The Weeknd yet
But if I could only get it by CD you bet I’m contributing a full album sale on the first weekFair point but theres also many people who wouldnt even consider buying the album that would of streamed 1-2 songs off of it. And by many I mean Millions, 1500 single streams is an album, it adds up / works both ways
- Oct 26, 2020·1 replymartian master
Only 4 rappers in history have done it to begin with lol. And the only rapper in the last decade to have an iconic run like 50, Em or Wayne did it (Drake)
that's better than 0 and the way the industry is looking nobody has the potential to do it either
- safe 🪩Oct 26, 2020·2 repliesmartian master
Fair point but theres also many people who wouldnt even consider buying the album that would of streamed 1-2 songs off of it. And by many I mean Millions, 1500 single streams is an album, it adds up / works both ways
Agree BUT I think you’re underestimating how many streams it takes to get album sales
Let’s say people stream 3 songs from the album on average during the first week
It would take 500 MILLION unique people to net 1m album sales in the first week
That’s impossible since it’s US sales
- Oct 26, 2020genghiskharti
that's better than 0 and the way the industry is looking nobody has the potential to do it either
I dont think thats about sales tbh, i think its about momentum. Atm theres noone that will have a run like the 4 I just named. But we still early as f*** in the decade. im sure someone will do it
- Oct 26, 2020·1 replysafe
2010 probably 1.2m ish
But if we go back pre Internet piracy that’s getting close to 2m+
Think of it this way
My most streamed album of this year is After Hours and I’ve listened to songs from it about 500 times (song plays)I’m an absolute outlier in how much I’ve listened to this album. I’m a huge Weeknd fan and it’s one of my favorite albums this year
I haven’t even contributed HALF of an album sale to The Weeknd yet
But if I could only get it by CD you bet I’m contributing a full album sale on the first weekalso now tho more people have the ability to listen tho was my thought.
so someone who wouldn't have bought can listen now
- safe 🪩Oct 26, 2020
It’s worth pointing out that while sales are down the music industry is MASSIVELY better off than it has been at any other point in the 2000s
And streaming is still growing incredibly quickly album sales are gonna rise by 15% per year for the next 5 years or so
- Oct 26, 2020·1 replysafe
Agree BUT I think you’re underestimating how many streams it takes to get album sales
Let’s say people stream 3 songs from the album on average during the first week
It would take 500 MILLION unique people to net 1m album sales in the first week
That’s impossible since it’s US sales
I understand that, but 1M+ in a week has only happened 6 times in HH to begin with. Thats not really the standard yknow?
- safe 🪩Oct 26, 2020Snow Tha GOAT
also now tho more people have the ability to listen tho was my thought.
so someone who wouldn't have bought can listen now
I think that it is still massively in favor of pure sales
It takes so so so many casual fans streams to contribute album sales
- Oct 26, 2020safe
Agree BUT I think you’re underestimating how many streams it takes to get album sales
Let’s say people stream 3 songs from the album on average during the first week
It would take 500 MILLION unique people to net 1m album sales in the first week
That’s impossible since it’s US sales
"It would take 500 MILLION unique people to net 1m album sales in the first week"
damn
- safe 🪩Oct 26, 2020·1 replymartian master
I understand that, but 1M+ in a week has only happened 6 times in HH to begin with. Thats not really the standard yknow?
No but that’s largely because Hip Hop wasn’t the dominant genre at any point during those eras
If we were in an album sale era adjusted to be at the same point as the 90s to early 2000s then I think Kanye and Kendrick would have both comfortably done it
This would actually be a good idea for a thread I should look at how total consumption has changed and adjust years to figure out what certain albums would’ve done in different eras
Super busy rn though so maybe down the line - Oct 26, 2020·1 replysafe
No but that’s largely because Hip Hop wasn’t the dominant genre at any point during those eras
If we were in an album sale era adjusted to be at the same point as the 90s to early 2000s then I think Kanye and Kendrick would have both comfortably done it
This would actually be a good idea for a thread I should look at how total consumption has changed and adjust years to figure out what certain albums would’ve done in different eras
Super busy rn though so maybe down the linengl u changin my mind
Oct 26, 2020·1 replyno one’s doing a mil first week again for a very long time. in hiphop at least
Oct 26, 2020safe2010 probably 1.2m ish
But if we go back pre Internet piracy that’s getting close to 2m+
Think of it this way
My most streamed album of this year is After Hours and I’ve listened to songs from it about 500 times (song plays)I’m an absolute outlier in how much I’ve listened to this album. I’m a huge Weeknd fan and it’s one of my favorite albums this year
I haven’t even contributed HALF of an album sale to The Weeknd yet
But if I could only get it by CD you bet I’m contributing a full album sale on the first weekthis is the best way ive seen this topic summarized
- safe 🪩Oct 26, 2020·1 replySnow Tha GOAT
ngl u changin my mind
By nature because the way we consume music changes so often, the amount of album sales is gonna change over time
In 5-10 years time I’d put money that we’re gonna start to see albums doing 800k+ off streaming alone and maybe even some 1m+ albums just from streaming
In the meantime though I think Adele is now the only artist who can hit 1m