So because we are born in certain circumstances that means we don't have free will? Lol
no it's because all your decisions are based on factors that were out of your control
your personality was decided by your genes + childhood environment
For example, for all the problems I faced, especially of my upbringing, I was set to have a pretty good life if I made the right decisions. - however I made awful decisions and now here I am (at the lower end of the overall outcome matrix, at the lower end of the outcome bell curve for every individual outcome)
yes but you made the best decisions you could according to your built-in personality given to you by genes + your childhood
you had no choice but to make those decisions
never provided evidence
im guessing youre talking about the libet experiment which has been widely and deservedly discredited
Oh shut the f*** up 😂
Yeah something thats been studied time and time again is widely disproven just because you dont like the results
Im not doing the research for u, u
Lazy b******
Oh shut the f*** up 😂
Yeah something thats been studied time and time again is widely disproven just because you dont like the results
Im not doing the research for u, u
Lazy b******
"studied time and time again"
where? when?
"widely disproven just because you dont like the results"
someone linked you an excellent critique of that study above. its not about me not liking it, its about it being flat out garbage science
even f***ing daniel dennett thinks you cant derive conclusions from it lol
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/how-a-flawed-experiment-proved-that-free-will-doesnt-exist/
Thanks for the opinion piece bro
😂😂😂
"studied time and time again"
where? when?
"widely disproven just because you dont like the results"
someone linked you an excellent critique of that study above. its not about me not liking it, its about it being flat out garbage science
even f***ing daniel dennett thinks you cant derive conclusions from it lol
Youre citing an opinion piece as fact wtf is wrong with you
Youre citing an opinion piece as fact wtf is wrong with you
my guy ... how do you criticize a scientific study without it being an opinion?
interpretations of studies are BY DEFINITION opinions
my guy ... how do you criticize a scientific study without it being an opinion?
interpretations of studies are BY DEFINITION opinions
If he wants to refute it he can publish his own paper and not try to sell his lame book lmfao
We are born with genes we didnt choose, in an environment we didn't choose. These circumstances affect greatly (or completely) the way we make our first decisions, upon which all our future decisions will be based, so how would there be a free will?
If you believe there is free will, where does the ability to independently decide our actions come from?
idk if i explained my thoughts in a way that is understandable, kinda hard ngl
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Ohhh The boss told you to do something so you aint got no choice about it
If he wants to refute it he can publish his own paper and not try to sell his lame book lmfao
bro you might be one of the dumbest users OAT despite your entire schtick being posting over the top pseudointellectual bs to prove how youre not a "coper"
imagine if I ran a study measuring my height to prove the existence of free will. and you were like "nah wtf you being 5' 11 has nothing to do with free will"
how do you produce new data to disproves my study when the entire problem is that my data has nothing to do with the conclusions im deriving
bro you might be one of the dumbest users OAT despite your entire schtick being posting over the top pseudointellectual bs to prove how youre not a "coper"
imagine if I ran a study measuring my height to prove the existence of free will. and you were like "nah wtf you being 5' 11 has nothing to do with free will"
how do you produce new data to disproves my study when the entire problem is that my data has nothing to do with the conclusions im deriving
Blah blah blah keep wasting ur time writing ur essays
Free will / free speech is an intangible concept created by white European philosophers to rationalize rich capitalists become detached from their social responsibilities through capitalism and colonialism
Free will isn’t really a thing. You’ll always be tied to the community and society you inhabit and all that you do will be caused by it and effective upon it.
It’s better to first solve material problems of your community that collectively inhibit the concept of freedom (social needs, shelter, sustenance, transportation) than to immediately grant the intangible, lofty concepts of free will
Can you ever just shut up man
Blah blah blah keep wasting ur time writing ur essays
its a discussion site and im discussing s***
keep wasting your time attentionwhoring and trying to feel morally superior on KTT2 though lmao
no it's because all your decisions are based on factors that were out of your control
your personality was decided by your genes + childhood environment
No
But the concept of free will is in the bible, no? Way before capitalism. The fact that capitalists use the concept of free will to justify their actions and beliefs does not mean that they created it.
Mfer is ed, no point in arguing
If it can’t be determinist then how are choices made?
There is no contradiction
Universe is deterministic.
Most of our choices are made unconsciously and heavily influenced.
Real free will and real choices are rare, if they even exist.