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  • Jan 27, 2023
    soapmanwun

    maybe he knows something we don't

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    YANDHI

    Fans don’t really know what catalogs are worth. It’s not worth $500M just because you think it is.

    Getting $200M already would mark him amongst the biggest deals ever. He wasn’t gonna see $200M off his percentage. People with 5-6 decades or work aren’t selling for much higher unless you’re a Bob Dylan or Springsteen

    The company buying it isnt planning on making less than 200 million so I’m not too sure how you’re even saying this. It’s obviously a long term vs short term play.

  • Jan 27, 2023

    What does it have to do with you though?

  • Jan 27, 2023
    YANDHI

    Fans don’t really know what catalogs are worth. It’s not worth $500M just because you think it is.

    Getting $200M already would mark him amongst the biggest deals ever. He wasn’t gonna see $200M off his percentage. People with 5-6 decades or work aren’t selling for much higher unless you’re a Bob Dylan or Springsteen

    You can speculate pretty well because Spotify does offer their payout breakout as public information and you have stream numbers

    Look it up, an artist like beiber banked 30M gross annually on the LOW end in the last decade

  • Jan 27, 2023
    Danny

    200m What a f***ing bum. Bugatti Biebs? More like BMW Biebs, YIKES

    that nigga ridin a lugz bike rn

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    20 plus years of streams would've never made him 200 mill. OP doesnt know wtf hes talking about.

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    As someone who’s already worth a couple hundred million, getting $200M now that you can reinvest in other s***, and still continue a solid recording/performance career is a hard thing to sell as a “bad deal”

  • Wonder if he had debt issues and needed a quick $200 million ? Or just doesn’t gaf and saw a $200 mill payout and was happy w it

  • Jan 27, 2023

    financial advice section

  • Jan 27, 2023
    LaSean

    20 plus years of streams would've never made him 200 mill. OP doesnt know wtf hes talking about.

    In the last decade he’s generated 1/5 of that 200M figure regularly on an annual basis

    It’s not hard math

    And if you think about the present value of those future cash flows from royalties in cash flows from streaming + media rights of his music + full concert performances (he has to pay to play his own music live now) + remastered releases in the future for the next 20-30 years

    It’s easily exceeding 200M in 2023 dollars

  • Jan 27, 2023
    LaSean

    20 plus years of streams would've never made him 200 mill. OP doesnt know wtf hes talking about.

    So the company that bought it, did so, why? To lose money? Lol. Come on now. There is no way those predatory music labels are just buying entire catalogs without plans on recouping in a major way.

  • Jan 27, 2023
    Birdie

    It’s private equity news flow and I work in the industry

    A s***ty deal is a s***ty deal lmao

    To someone who came from nothing, there isn’t much difference between $200 million and $500 million, especially when the $200 is upfront and guaranteed right now whereas the $500 is a speculative estimate for the future

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    YANDHI

    As someone who’s already worth a couple hundred million, getting $200M now that you can reinvest in other s***, and still continue a solid recording/performance career is a hard thing to sell as a “bad deal”

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    Investing even half of that 200M could potentially yield way more than what he would have received from streaming

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    Only way artists will "regret" these deals is if the pay model for streaming changes in the future

  • Jan 27, 2023
    soapmanwun

    maybe he knows something we don't

    Biebs getting cancelled

  • Jan 27, 2023
    mr get dough

    U dont know what percentage of his streams hes even getting and stream payout legit might not add up to 200 Ms lol

    Plus 200 Ms is a lot of f***ing money

  • Jan 27, 2023

    Only on KTT will someone get clowned for getting a check for $200 M’s

    Loser ass behavior

  • Jan 27, 2023

    Who is buying all the catalogs

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    He probably doesn't get s*** from sales or streams. Dude just wants to live.

    I ain't mad at it

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    Bo Ceephus

    He probably doesn't get s*** from sales or streams. Dude just wants to live.

    I ain't mad at it

    It’s public what he makes from streams

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    Dotenheimer

    The company buying it isnt planning on making less than 200 million so I’m not too sure how you’re even saying this. It’s obviously a long term vs short term play.

    It’s a risk both ways but at the end of the day a $200M payout you can utilize now is never going to be a bad deal for the artist

    There’s no assurances Bieber’s music has long term plays either or he would have seen that money in a long term span.

    It’s not like the money just sits in his savings account. Bieber is a business owner and investor. He and his family are set for life regardless

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    Pedro

    Investing even half of that 200M could potentially yield way more than what he would have received from streaming

    So why would the largest PE firm bother buying his catalog then if 200M in liquid cash is better than Justin Beiber royalties until in the end of time?

  • Jan 27, 2023
    Danny

    💯

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    this just in @op and most of ktt have no idea how much 200 million dollars is.

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