Jan 27, 2023·1 reply
Birdiestreaming isn’t even the sole revenue vertical he’s lost in this deal
He makes 30-80M gross before taxes, a year on average in the past decade on his music, that’s public information
He’s lost the rights to advertising revenue, media usages of his music, remaster additions, merchandising rights related to the music, etc
Net of tax he got 100M off this lmfao look at his current net worth right now and imagine his royalties being accrued over the next 20+ years in stable income
He realistically should be valued at 500M plus .. everyone in my investment firm is laughing at this rn
unless you have proof of these numbers for Justin you are just talking out your ass.
Like you do in most threads here bro. No one curr bout your "iNvEsTMenT jOb"
Jan 27, 2023
YANDHIIt’s a risk both ways but at the end of the day a $200M payout you can utilize now is never going to be a bad deal for the artist
There’s no assurances Bieber’s music has long term plays either or he would have seen that money in a long term span.
It’s not like the money just sits in his savings account. Bieber is a business owner and investor. He and his family are set for life regardless
It’s not a bad deal. But like I said, there is no way these firms are spending money on entire catalogs to lose money. That almost never happens.
It’s quick money vs long term money.
I’m not mad at it either way.
Jan 27, 2023
FantasyThese investment firms are going to train their AIs with all these artist’s catalogues
- Jan 27, 2023·1 replyYANDHI
It’s a risk both ways but at the end of the day a $200M payout you can utilize now is never going to be a bad deal for the artist
There’s no assurances Bieber’s music has long term plays either or he would have seen that money in a long term span.
It’s not like the money just sits in his savings account. Bieber is a business owner and investor. He and his family are set for life regardless
This. OP is just assuming that Bieber’s catalog will still be worth a lot in 20-30 years, literally none of us know if that will be the case
- Jan 27, 2023Birdie
It’s public what he makes from streams
does your investment job also take into account the percentages and cut that justin bieber gets from hits that he didn't write on, or produce, or do anything besides singing on?
Cause that's what actual people within the music industry are saying about these artists getting these payouts.
- OPJan 27, 2023·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
this just in @op and most of ktt have no idea how much 200 million dollars is.
200M isn’t s*** if you have annual cash flows of 25-50M (public info) net per year accruing over 20+ years
Looking at his streaming number trends he has atleast 5 years of living that range and that’s not accounting the fact that to even play one of his bigger hits in a movie/tv show/national commercial one is another revenue generating stream in the millions range
- OPJan 27, 2023·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
unless you have proof of these numbers for Justin you are just talking out your ass.
Like you do in most threads here bro. No one curr bout your "iNvEsTMenT jOb"
Google it
- OPJan 27, 2023·1 replyshaleirose
This. OP is just assuming that Bieber’s catalog will still be worth a lot in 20-30 years, literally none of us know if that will be the case
Blackstone knows
- Jan 27, 2023·1 replyBirdie
Google it
oh my bad, because googling information is also factual.
Next you'll tell me celebrity net worth is real too.
f*** off dude lol.
- Jan 27, 2023·3 repliesBirdie
200M isn’t s*** if you have annual cash flows of 25-50M (public info) net per year accruing over 20+ years
Looking at his streaming number trends he has atleast 5 years of living that range and that’s not accounting the fact that to even play one of his bigger hits in a movie/tv show/national commercial one is another revenue generating stream in the millions range
How. Much. Of. This. Does. Justin. Get. In. Percentages.
This is why people that don't know how the music industry works should really just shut the f*** up bruh lol.
Jan 27, 2023BirdieSo why would the largest PE firm bother buying his catalog then if 200M in liquid cash is better than Justin Beiber royalties until in the end of time?
To sell at some point in the future
Seems like a pretty standard rich person move tbh. He raises his net worth by an estimated almost 50% right now, and he can leverage that into other assets. Investing is obvi a gamble, but so is trying to predict his monthly listeners for decades as audiences get younger and new acts pop up
- OPJan 27, 2023·2 repliesDynamic Uno Music
oh my bad, because googling information is also factual.
Next you'll tell me celebrity net worth is real too.
f*** off dude lol.
You’re not interested in having a convo here lmao just a contrarian
His streaming calcs are public information and you find in Bloomberg and other verified news outlet reports what a typical payout is for using a Diamond or platinum hit in a commercial is
Jan 27, 2023·1 replywhy you acting like 200m some paltry sum of money
Jan 27, 2023bieber dont be writing like that if i’m not mistaken so who knows how much he was really getting
- Jan 27, 2023Dynamic Uno Music
How. Much. Of. This. Does. Justin. Get. In. Percentages.
https://twitter.com/russdiemon/status/1605740732379271169This is why people that don't know how the music industry works should really just shut the f*** up bruh lol.
exactly
Jan 27, 2023
bbrruuiisseessPurpose is worth 500m alone
Jan 27, 2023bbrruuiisseessSomething about anyone on here laughing about 200m is super funny
Like no one here is close to there
Peak KTT
- Jan 27, 2023·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
How. Much. Of. This. Does. Justin. Get. In. Percentages.
https://twitter.com/russdiemon/status/1605740732379271169This is why people that don't know how the music industry works should really just shut the f*** up bruh lol.
Add to the fact that streaming and publishing rights are separate as well
- Jan 27, 2023·1 replyBirdie
You’re not interested in having a convo here lmao just a contrarian
His streaming calcs are public information and you find in Bloomberg and other verified news outlet reports what a typical payout is for using a Diamond or platinum hit in a commercial is
you're posting everything as facts which is literally not. I just brought to you the notion of percentages within said pay out. Just because a single is making that much doesn't mean Justin gets 100% of all of that. Hell he probably taking less than 40% of the profits lol.
- Jan 27, 2023p apollo
why you acting like 200m some paltry sum of money
You don’t got 200 million? You niggas broke as hell
Jan 27, 2023ya over a couple decades his royalties would have paid more than $200m, but this is $200m UPFRONT. big difference
- Jan 27, 2023·1 replyBirdie
Blackstone knows
No they don’t. Anything can happen that can tank the value of his catalog very quickly
- Jan 27, 2023Dynamic Uno Music
How. Much. Of. This. Does. Justin. Get. In. Percentages.
https://twitter.com/russdiemon/status/1605740732379271169This is why people that don't know how the music industry works should really just shut the f*** up bruh lol.
OP doesn’t know what the f*** he’s talking about
- Jan 27, 2023·3 replies
$200 million today is worth a lot more than $200 million over the span of 20 years
- Jan 27, 2023shaleirose
No they don’t. Anything can happen that can tank the value of his catalog very quickly
Thank you. And the company is so huge, and has its hands in so many ventures, that they're able to quickly recover if any facet of their portfolio goes under