I also agree that MS gave a great adaptation of this specific story.
I’m also, on a section of this forum dedicated to discussing movies, discussing things that would’ve elevated the movie in my opinion. Are you done having a tantrum?
I just don’t think you understood at all the intent Martin had with concluding the movie. And you did a bit of posturing. So I’m making fun
He said I am having an opinion on a movie in a movie forum how DARE you have an opinion on my opinion lmao go write a blog then
I just don’t think you understood at all the intent Martin had with concluding the movie. And you did a bit of posturing. So I’m making fun
If saying that a brief pre-credit montage of current stats to connect the story to current state of MMIW means I’m posturing / not understanding Martin’s vision… then okay
If saying that a brief pre-credit montage of current stats to connect the story to current state of MMIW means I’m posturing / not understanding Martin’s vision… then okay
No— it seems you don’t understand the ending bc Marty specifically extends the time period a few decades and the final words of the obituary perfectly sums up the way Native’s issues are swept under the rug.
The film never tried to inform on anything past the story that was told. It was small snippet of a larger issue and the lack of deliberately acknowledging that was intentional. He could’ve very well made a more informative movie, he didn’t.
And the posturing came with your reply to me giving me a bio of your attachment to the issue.
No— it seems you don’t understand the ending bc Marty specifically extends the time period a few decades and the final words of the obituary perfectly sums up the way Native’s issues are swept under the rug.
The film never tried to inform on anything past the story that was told. It was small snippet of a larger issue and the lack of deliberately acknowledging that was intentional. He could’ve very well made a more informative movie, he didn’t.
And the posturing came with your reply to me giving me a bio of your attachment to the issue.
Reflecting on the ending of the film and wishing it would’ve taken a slightly different approach =/= not understanding the approach that it did take.
I spoke on how widespread of a problem the lack of education around MMIW is because you had this attitude of “well that’s dumb, everybody knows racism is a problem it’s not this movies job to confront that”.
Anyway, I think this conversation has run it’s course. You love the ending, that’s fine. It was a good ending. I liked the ending well enough, just would’ve loved seeing a precredit of some very brief connection to modern landscape which you’ve made very clear you think would be absolutely ridiculous and completely demolish the thesis of the film lmao
Reflecting on the ending of the film and wishing it would’ve taken a slightly different approach =/= not understanding the approach that it did take.
I spoke on how widespread of a problem the lack of education around MMIW is because you had this attitude of “well that’s dumb, everybody knows racism is a problem it’s not this movies job to confront that”.
Anyway, I think this conversation has run it’s course. You love the ending, that’s fine. It was a good ending. I liked the ending well enough, just would’ve loved seeing a precredit of some very brief connection to modern landscape which you’ve made very clear you think would be absolutely ridiculous and completely demolish the thesis of the film lmao
I would’ve thought it ran it’s course for you when you called me a moron. Carry on
Blud can’t even read the replies I gave him. Definitely said it wouldn’t have missed the mark had he chosen to do a more informative ending. But I “made it very clear” of the opposite? You’re a god damn bozo and no wonder you couldn’t comprehend this art piece
Yeah I feel like most people saying dumb things about it forget that Scorsese and his team has always used hot actors in their films even for small parts. Most people are saying something about it because it’s of the time. But had we been around for any of his films post the 90’s I’m sure the conversation is different.
mans had Cheech and Chong in After Hours lol
Apparently Scorsese and Deniro got a little annoyed cus Leo kept trying to improv his lines lmao
wonder if he wrote the "you talk too much" line in the film for that
Been kinda sick gf watched it without me f*** that b**** … got my ticket for tomorrow night
i felt dumb in this scene can someone explain
so i know that deniro took fire insurance on the place. he's literally letting their homeland burn for his own gain. molly and earnest had the fire piercing through their window like they were in hell almost. the destruction & evil of deniro's actions on display
but why were the people digging on/around the fire with pick axes? is that how they used to put out fires? or are these farm workers who continued to work despite the huge fire? i do really feel dumb asking because obviously it was a massively striking moment i just actually didn't get it
I think they’re trying to put it out, by essentially digging a trench around it so the fire can’t spread out towards the rest of the field.
my top 5 Leo performances:
1) Wolf
2) Aviator
3) Hollywood
4) Django
5) Shutter Island
He was so good in Aviator
Honestly dying to see this again already but I’ll probably wait till its out on streaming
I should try to get my girl to watch this even though she told me she won't make three and a half hours in the cinema
The reason I think the ending is such an important point to the viewers.
I think Scorsese wanted us to see/feel/understand no matter how well-produced/directed movies will always have a sort of artificialness unless its a primary source documentary type of media.
There is a specific reason why Scorsese did not dive deeper into the trauma Mollie felt, rather the only glimpse of it we got was those shots we got of pure horror on her face (Lily Gladstone killed it). He treated our relationship with her very very delicate, even though it was incredibly easy to sympathize with her situation, we never once got a glimpse into how she truly felt, especially towards the end, it only focused on Ernest's point of view.
I think Scorsese knows that he is not in a position to truly represent what the Osage people felt, and furthermore he realizes that no matter how much effort you put into filming, movies will always feel artificial, and there will always be a certain narrative pushed. When the play was over, Scorsese comes out on stage and confronts the audience directly, wanting to emphasize just how artificial it all is, because up to this point we have the privilege of treating it as just as a movie or a drama, but in reality this is real life, this actually happened.