Yeah the book is from the FBI perspective. After Scorsese met with the Osage nation they decided to change the movie.

Cus after Leo read the original script his complaint was “I like the material, but what’s the STORY? There’s no story here”…..basically what is this movie really trying to say rather than just being a typical murder mystery/cop show

This fr only gonna be in theaters?

nah it'll def be on Apple sometime soon

Yeah personally I see power of the dog as a tired ass victim bs movie that feels like it was made for Reddit with the extremely on the nose portrayal of the toxic manly man who is closet gay and the typical victimized white woman. Yawn

But with killers of the flower moon, you do get her perspective and you see that she realizes these white people are snakes and greedy. She calls it out from the beginning when she says “coyote wants money” to Leo. Just because it’s not from her perspective doesn’t mean you can’t see she has a complicated internal struggle. She is blinded by her love for him and the reason she is blinded by it is because he genuinely does love her. It’s actually quite a brilliant playing of perspectives from Scorsese because we know lilys character and her internal feelings from her scenes but we also realize that the reason she doesn’t catch on fully to what is happening is because she genuinely believes Ernest loves her and we believe that when we see the complicated struggle Ernest is going through and his debates with De Niro and how he’s brainwashed by him into accepting what he must do

I was more afraid of what his uncle was capable of than him, like how far would HE go. cuz not for nothing, he was actively poisoning his wife his "LOVE" can't go much farther than that

yea i was wondering if he was gonna take leo out too

I was ready for the brother to be asked to do it lol but he kinda disappeared for a good chunk of that last hour

that was always his plan tbh and that was revealed at the end when it was found out that a hit was ordered on Ernest before he even switched up. Bro wanted the money

Bringing up the lack of racial minorities in the military feels a bit forced, but I like the point that “DiCaprio plays Ernest as the guy in the unit that everyone bullied”, I think it adds a lot of context to his character

yea he had his stupid ass sign that document giving him all the money if something happened to him LOL

1000000%

it’s such a compelling dynamic in the most f\*\*\*ed up way possible. My ass didn’t know Leo was the bad guy going in. So I’m thinking nah he’s bout to do right by her, I can see the twinkle in his eye until, Oop, he done killed her sister SMH.

Oh 100% DeNiro was the biggest villain hands down. Everytime he pulled up with them damn goggles on I didn’t know what was gonna happen lol

I totally thought the movie was gonna be about Leo gradually figuring out what his uncle is doing and working with Mollie to bring him down

Literally what I thought too. But spoiler this homie lol

he’s not explicitly the bad guy tbh and he does do the right thing at the end. But yeah, he’s no doubt a very scummy anti hero and I love that Scorsese doesn’t try to ever truly vindicate him for the few “good” acts he does do even if on paper they are huge (literally saves Mollies life by not giving her that last full dosage, obviously ratting out De Niro at the end). Even just seeing Ernest gaslight and b\*\*\*\* Mollie out into taking the insulin in the middle is lowkey one of the most f\*\*\*ed up moments of the film.

It’s honestly great Scorsese didn’t portray the character too favorably or else this woulda just been more white guilt p\*\*\*

the casting for this was f***ing on point by the way

some real 1920s looking mfs

lol he’s definitely a bad guy to me, he just isn’t a cookie cutter bad guy. A very complex one. We can say he saved her life by not giving her the last full dosage, but my argument is, he should’ve never been giving it to her to begin with. Which is brilliant writing in my opinion

ye i something similar which is why i can understand why Scorsese told the story the way he did

he shouldn’t have but also it makes sense why he did it. He’s asked very early on if he’s scared of de Niros character and I think the truth is he always was scared of him. Thats why he blindly follows him the whole movie. It’s for the money as well but once he falls in love with Mollie, it becomes clear that it’s not truly just money as the reason he’s obeying his uncle. He genuinely believes that his way of loving Mollie is granting her a slow death rather than going out like her sisters. The way Leo looks at Anna as she’s dead and her sister that gets blown up is very telling.

Same with me, it was really disturbing realising just how much absence of good there is in the narrative, the marketing made me thing Earnest would be a naive guy making a horrible realisation, but until the FBI come in you're just bearing witness to acts of unpunished evil for hours

Ernest’s idiocy is truly the most interesting part of his character. It makes you wonder if he fully understands how evil and despicable he truly is. Especially when he was poisoning Millie, I got the impression that he didn’t understand he was actually slowly killing her.​

I too think he wasn't fully aware of what he was doing. Not initally at least. But he slowly (double entendre) connected the dots.

I think a lot of it goes back to him being convinced that the natives are lesser than whites, even with Mollie he has his uncle hammering into him that shes gonna get sick and die anyways

My mom who I saw it with was like "I didn't get why she stayed with him or was even interested to begin with considering she already had her doubts about the white ppls intentions" so yeah some of that could have been made more clear but back then finding a match was kind of just normalized vs being an independent woman I mean they said she got married at 15 too so I look at it more of a "that's how it was then women weren't in a place where they had much of a choice and it was just expected that they marry and provide children even if the man was questionable"