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  • May 16, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    i get what you mean

    and i would have agreed
    with you some years ago

    when views dropped especially

    i like a lot of people tuned into
    joe's podcast and my thoughts were similar

    years removed from that
    and in going back to it

    i'm finding that i resonate with it a lot

    same with More Life

    the pusha beef was a massive L at the time

    and i HATED scorpion when it dropped

    (the chopnotslop version
    is fire though i've discovered)

    but it was dark lane demo tapes
    that fully brought me back in

    songs like not you too and
    losses are prime drake cuts to me

    and i get the sense that CLB will be the return to form that you're looking for

    in conclusion

    i feel you

    and i appreciate you having your own opinion

    i hope you enjoy his next release

    you use line spacing too often OP

  • May 16, 2021
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    xxxkiraxxx

    you use line spacing too often OP

    it's how i write my raps
    so it's hard not to write this way

    after so many years

  • May 16, 2021
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    Saint Aquinas

    "Daytona is a classic"
    "Travis, carti, and uzi make trap music"
    "J Cole is generic therefore he isn't good"
    "Biggie only had 2 albums. He's overrated"
    "Eminem is only successful because he's white"

    Yes, Daytona is a classic

  • May 16, 2021
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    Nothing

    Yes, Daytona is a classic

    does it have the impact?

  • May 16, 2021
    notesfromphilo

    does it have the impact?

    Idk too early to tell

  • May 16, 2021
    notesfromphilo

    it's how i write my raps
    so it's hard not to write this way

    after so many years

    Damn you‘re quick. I wanted to say that you type like you‘re rapping

    But keep it going

  • May 16, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    have you read my responses in this thread

    i don't think your assessment of me is accurate

    i think i’m just a little confused on the whole concept. if someone thinks nas picks bad beats or j cole is boring what exactly makes that a “narrative” that’s “objectively false” and not just how someone feels? what gives you the right to decide whether these people actually feel this way?

  • May 16, 2021
    Saint Aquinas

    "Daytona is a classic"
    "Travis, carti, and uzi make trap music"
    "J Cole is generic therefore he isn't good"
    "Biggie only had 2 albums. He's overrated"
    "Eminem is only successful because he's white"

    Daytona IS MOST DEFINITELY a classic

  • May 16, 2021
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    Coleman

    i think i’m just a little confused on the whole concept. if someone thinks nas picks bad beats or j cole is boring what exactly makes that a “narrative” that’s “objectively false” and not just how someone feels? what gives you the right to decide whether these people actually feel this way?

    if i ask them why they feel how they feel

    and they don't have a personal reason

    that is how i know that they have just been sucked into an echo chamber

    does that answer your question?

  • May 16, 2021

    when i say something is objectively false

    it's because i have taken the time to form my opinion

    so of course i'm going to debate it

  • May 16, 2021

    debate is what we need more of

  • May 16, 2021

    you can make a similar argument for the consensus top 5 too

    i get that

    Pac Big Em Jay Nas

    are the usual suspects

    but the WHY of their placement is what lets me know whether you believe what you're saying or not

  • May 16, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    with that said

    i feel like the narratives i've posted are objectively wrong

    and i am willing to debate either of them

    The only narrative that's wrong is assuming people don't think for themselves if it's something you don't like. You're basically insinuating they can't have an opinion, you make it easy for yourself by calling it "objectively wrong".

  • May 16, 2021
    Nothing

    Yes, Daytona is a classic

    It literally did nothing for rap.

  • May 16, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    if i ask them why they feel how they feel

    and they don't have a personal reason

    that is how i know that they have just been sucked into an echo chamber

    does that answer your question?

    so for example, i think cole is boring. i’ve listened to his albums and just wasn’t interested. for the others ones i agree with the sentiment behind them but they’re a little too much of an exaggeration to me. i don’t have some personal reason behind it. am i objectively wrong and just following a narrative because i won’t debate you on why you are just more interested in j cole than me?

  • May 16, 2021
    We Didnt Like That

    The only narrative that's wrong is assuming people don't think for themselves if it's something you don't like. You're basically insinuating they can't have an opinion, you make it easy for yourself by calling it "objectively wrong".

  • May 16, 2021
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    Mango

    I was never happy to listen a full Drake project until IYRT, and I haven't since either. It was always singles and B sides in rotation more than full releases. Always thought he was too interested in stuff he wasn't very good at whether it be singing or writing about women or whatever.

    King of the brag track. Pretty much undefeated on the guest verse. Collab juggernaut. Quotable and caption bars for days. IYRT embodies that. His other records do not.

    I was never happy to listen a full Drake project until IYRT, and I haven't since either.

    I’ve said it 10,000 times and it’s always true. And you stay seeing more and more examples lol.
    The niggas that don’t actually like Drake always use IYRTITL as the benchmark lol.

    Makes it very easy to know who’s opinion to take seriously, it’s like reading a Fantano review.

  • May 16, 2021
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    darkest angel im not assuming

    i have repeatedly stated that i ask people personally

    and their response determines how i feel

  • May 16, 2021

    Since I’m on the topic “Drake hasn’t been good since IYRTITL” is a narrative that I def see too much and need to stop.

    Niggas just finally the least drake-like of all the drake albums that’s ok for them to listen to.

  • May 16, 2021

    This is better than JIK

  • May 16, 2021
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    Coleman

    so for example, i think cole is boring. i’ve listened to his albums and just wasn’t interested. for the others ones i agree with the sentiment behind them but they’re a little too much of an exaggeration to me. i don’t have some personal reason behind it. am i objectively wrong and just following a narrative because i won’t debate you on why you are just more interested in j cole than me?

    you've listened and formed your opinion

    i don't agree but i respect that you've listened

    i don't know why you think im assuming anything

    or saying that people aren't allowed to have opinions

    i am encouraging that

    i want to debate people who know what they are talking about

    and some of the statements people make

    are questionable

    that's why they seem exaggerated

    to anybody who has actually listened

  • May 16, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    darkest angel im not assuming

    i have repeatedly stated that i ask people personally

    and their response determines how i feel

    So you're just this opinion judge going around verifying hot takes and battling narratives? I'm honestly wishing the best for you maybe take a break from ktt

  • May 16, 2021
    We Didnt Like That

    So you're just this opinion judge going around verifying hot takes and battling narratives? I'm honestly wishing the best for you maybe take a break from ktt

    how old are you if you don't mind me asking

  • May 16, 2021
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    notesfromphilo

    you've listened and formed your opinion

    i don't agree but i respect that you've listened

    i don't know why you think im assuming anything

    or saying that people aren't allowed to have opinions

    i am encouraging that

    i want to debate people who know what they are talking about

    and some of the statements people make

    are questionable

    that's why they seem exaggerated

    to anybody who has actually listened

    it doesn’t make any sense. you’re saying some statements people make are “questionable” and “objectively wrong”, especially to “anyone who has actually listened.” meanwhile i am someone who has actually listened and i agree with the statement and don’t see it as questionable at all. you just personally don’t agree with them and you’re trying to make your opinions into facts. some people will disagree with you just like you disagree with me. that’s it.

  • May 16, 2021
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    Coleman

    it doesn’t make any sense. you’re saying some statements people make are “questionable” and “objectively wrong”, especially to “anyone who has actually listened.” meanwhile i am someone who has actually listened and i agree with the statement and don’t see it as questionable at all. you just personally don’t agree with them and you’re trying to make your opinions into facts. some people will disagree with you just like you disagree with me. that’s it.

    you're missing the point i think

    my issue is

    PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LISTEN
    YET SPEAK ABOUT THINGS

    YOU HAVE LISTENED

    SO I DONT CARE
    THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE