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  • Dec 14, 2021
    NewCopeJustDropped

    Yea it's borderline pathetic.

    It be crazy how niggas got thoughts about u but u don’t even know them all we gotta do is chop it up and I bet all your hate against me will be gone but u niggas decide to sit back and foster hatred towards a brother. That’s that envy boosie be telling y’all about but u hate him cause he trolled a troll grow up lil bro

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    afterimage

    He’s right. Travis be creating the most grandeur persona and hype just to drop tracks like Escape Plan

    And Travis stans will force you to believe Utopia will be any good off them mid ass songs

    Ur describing art.

    Trav been ass at music, everyone in the Stu makes it for him

    He’s artful at finessing, been known

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Daveacee9

    You shouldn’t have to say it 7/10 it’s artist who want “white” acceptance or have a larger white fanbase

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Jvnkyrdawg

    Ur describing art.

    Trav been ass at music, everyone in the Stu makes it for him

    He’s artful at finessing, been known

    Literally was about to post that sounds like art to me lol

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    they don’t post that jpegmafia avi on the first page of op threads anymore. he won

  • Dec 14, 2021

    stupid ass take

    some rappers only want to rap

    others don’t necessarily care about bars only and don’t want to be boxed into the rapper category

    because rap has some of the worst fans criticizing any artist who does something else because “it’s not hip hop enough” “not enough bars” “double entendres” ext.

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    You can't lie though, people put you in a box once you're labelled as a "rapper". Like if you want to venture into other genres and s***, people aren't going to be as receptive to it because they already see you as a rapper. Tyler said on the Cherry Bomb documentary, he wants to make Stevie Wonder type music because he feels it's more timeless. He makes IGOR years later and he gets the Best Rap Album Grammy

    I think it's to avoid how the world sees them rather than any shade or disrespect towards rap as a genre. Kanye said the same thing, people use it as a label to disrespect him

  • Dec 14, 2021

    I agree with a post by u? this the twilight zone

    Nah but fr i hate them buzzwords. Only time ill accept the word “pretentious” being used in an art context. Cause that s*** mad lame and condescending

  • Dec 14, 2021
    deadass

    Literally was about to post that sounds like art to me lol

    Deadass©️

  • Dec 14, 2021
    afterimage

    While we’re at it let’s talk about black artists making pop songs but only getting put into urban contemporary music/ flat out called rap, or called rnb or some s***

  • Dec 14, 2021
    ny bookers

    it’s the equivalent of “I’m not black I’m Dominican”

    Nah some dominicans aren't black

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    hot pancakes

    it depends on the sales

    popular music = pop

    so if an artists sells millions, they will be labeled as pop

    if they don’t, they will be labeled in their actual genre

    pop music encompasses all genres, really, once a particular song becomes a popular hit

    pop is an actual genre

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Water Giver

    Rappers are artists & Rap is art.

    But yall let them get away with this s*** since early to mid 2010s so it is what it is now.

    Its kanyes fault

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    For instance post malone won best rap album at the american music awards one year, look at him now he’s doesn’t even get nominated for rap awards anymore it’s all pop and rock s***

    Now if uzi was to make strictly pop music from here on out and took the post malone route, you think they’ll nominate him for pop or rock? Hell no

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    PEACEFUL HARMONY

    U notice how them niggas who be calling theyself artists be saying it all the time bro trying to force a narrative or brainwash u into thinking that s***? I haven’t heard a nigga like Ross or Andre or Peggy call theyself artist unless they talking about recording artists. Niggas like travis and ye really think they a weird painter or something s*** funny and weird lol but folks eat it up so maybe they onto something

    Like bro they really want suburban white acceptance that s*** so cring e to me bro

    Its more to it then just wanting to pander to white audiences. If i produce, make beats, mix and rap why the f*** would i want to be known as just a rapper?

  • Dec 14, 2021
    BonelessWings

    Always goes back to reference point. The stigma attached with rapper makes people run away and self define themselves as something else.

    But I will never not see Ye as a rapper because he does so much rap s*** I cant be mad at him calling himself an artist.

    He took Waka Flocka to Paris Fashion Week in 2011 to perform there. Bridging the gap since way back. Even him freestyling with Future shows me who Ye is. A Rapper.

    his drink champs interview cemented that to me as well

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    This isn't even a good bait thread and y'all running it up

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Daveacee9

    For instance post malone won best rap album at the american music awards one year, look at him now he’s doesn’t even get nominated for rap awards anymore it’s all pop and rock s***

    Now if uzi was to make strictly pop music from here on out and took the post malone route, you think they’ll nominate him for pop or rock? Hell no

    That's because people complained

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    Dedication 666

    pop is an actual genre

    I wouldn't say pop is a genre because it can't really be defined and has no real identity. Hip-hop is pop now until a new genre takes its place. Pop is just short for popular

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    bigbelts

    Its more to it then just wanting to pander to white audiences. If i produce, make beats, mix and rap why the f*** would i want to be known as just a rapper?

    How many mainstream people doing that...

  • Dec 14, 2021
    The Darkest Angel

    I wouldn't say pop is a genre because it can't really be defined and has no real identity. Hip-hop is pop now until a new genre takes its place. Pop is just short for popular

    "i wouldn't say pop is a genre"

  • Dec 14, 2021
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    The Darkest Angel

    I wouldn't say pop is a genre because it can't really be defined and has no real identity. Hip-hop is pop now until a new genre takes its place. Pop is just short for popular

    So what genre is ariana grande?

  • Dec 14, 2021
    Dedication 666

    How many mainstream people doing that...

    The 2 niggas he used as an example in the op

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    5th listen

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