try heroin

Guys I have a dilemma. Should I go watch Rick Ross perform at the club at 3am or go to sleep at 10pm

Also I think I’m going to change this to the sleep thread in general

U just gotta do it

Day 2: woke up 6am

Decided to put my alarm in my bathroom counter this time instead of my night stand table. Immediately got up because if it rang too long, it would have woken up my roommate.

Did the same tricks to falling asleep last night and very impressed with how they’ve been helping me wind down.

Walk a lot so fall asleep easily due to the tiredness and the sunlight wakes me up before the alarm does.

That’s the perfect scenario. Why do you walk a lot?

drunk af rn. Dont want to sleep yet

for probably 10 years with school, university and a part time job I've been someone who went to bed between midnight and 4am on average, over the past couple years with COVID it became 2am to 5am

Probably 2 months ago I started waking up at around 8/9am everyday, I get sleepy at around 10pm and stay up til midnight normally out of habit but I'm in a much better place with sleep overall

in part I think its because I've been sleeping with my blinds open so I get natural light waking me up, but otherwise I haven't changed much else that would mean I'm physically more tired, I think its a good step and forcing yourself to wake up at 8am will eventually make your body used to an earlier wake up

The Uni campus is kinda set up that way. Like i need to walk away from the dorm a bit to go eat food , to go from one class to another as theyre set in different buildings, gotta walk to the library and back. And i like to jog a bit in the evening after finishing all my tasks. Been clocking in somewhere between 15000 to 20000 steps since coming here.

i struggled with hardcore on/off multi-day insomnia issues for years and the only thing that fixed my sleep issues was strictly following CBT-I (cognitive behavior therapy for insomnia) routines incredibly closely for a really long time. you can't fix sleep with supplements or medication, and i think people learn this the hard way.
the truth is that w sleep, it's not just something you can do on/off or at a whim circumstantially, it's a biological mechanism that requires regular attention paid to it.
the hard reality of sleep is that it's a trade off vs your schedule of being awake. if you push your sleep schedule around regularly, it is physically impossible to fix your sleeping issues, regardless of how much melatonin or whatever else you take. sleeping requires cultivating a schedule for months if not years before you can even think of diverging from it for a day or two. this is a hard reality because people like to stay out late, or they get their schedule f***ed around w because of their jobs, or because they have to mess up their sleep in order to balance work/life/etc, but the reality is that you cannot maintain a healthy sleep schedule or fix insomnia issues on a whim, it requires sacrificing time. there is legitimately no other long term fix for it

So your sleep schedule is consistent and perfect now?

It’s not perfect, I still get off days every now and then but I haven’t lost a night of sleep since I started doing CBT-I except for when traveling between timezones (unavoidable). I generally have a more consistent schedule now but ofc there’s a tradeoff for me having less of a night life.

My problem is i'll go to sleep then wake up in 4 hours

Can never get a full 8 hour sleep

How do you do CBT exactly? Can you share your resources?

Day 3: woke up 6am again

there's a few ways of practicing CBT-I and there are also similar practices like sleep restriction therapy (SRT). i can do a write up for you later today

Would love that and will add it to the op

they just be making up words these days