Zach LaBeam

4y

Too much focus on income tax itt. If corporate and capital gains taxes were higher there would be less need for personal income tax.

CLB Fractions

4y

capital gains should be taxed as income. no more no less.

Zach LaBeam

4y

That money *typically doesn't stimulate the economy. People who make money simply by having money or moving money around should be taxed more than income

Zach LaBeam

4y

Too much focus on income tax itt. If corporate and capital gains taxes were higher there would be less need for personal income tax.

ragedsycokiller

4y

Voters should be able to vote where their taxes go in their communities

ASAKI

4y

Taxation goes beyond "my money is being taken from my paycheck :^(" Taxes are utilized to pay for externalities that would be otherwise impossible to procure or maintain by local communities.

Communities could maybe fund a local school-- they cannot band together to form social security or a military force in any major capacity. That's where governance comes in. Now, depending on how libertarian you are, this can change (with actual libertarianism, not that dogshit right-wing ideology).

However, there's differing perspectives on this. Afaik, in anarchist thought for example (and someone can correct me), I'm pretty sure a common notion is that associations of producers form federations that pool in surplus of resources into something called a "social surplus", and then they collectively determine where that money goes. It's not coercive, but voluntary as well.

rich scouser

4y

Tbf I would think this if my country was 3rd world and the taxes didn't help pay for public healthcare for all

Mafia Boss

4y

Saying taxes pay for externalities is just defending exploitation. Why should working class people pay for things they don't even use or want like NASA. The government taking money from working people for things we don't even want is no different from businesses underpaying us and using it for insurance and retirement plans.

Let's say you are a single man/woman making 65k a year, you would be paying more in federal tax, state tax, local tax, FICA, then you would benefit from every year, even factoring in military and roads.

I'll take a right-libertarian over a socialist any day of the week.

CLB Fractions

4y

how is your wait times?

rich scouser

4y

Not bad at all just had an op month after original consultation. Doc had originally told me usually it's 6 weeks and could be even worse bc of Covid

Synopsis

4y

Well at least you finally exposed yourself with that last sentence

Mafia Boss

4y

Saying taxes pay for externalities is just defending exploitation. Why should working class people pay for things they don't even use or want like NASA. The government taking money from working people for things we don't even want is no different from businesses underpaying us and using it for insurance and retirement plans.

Let's say you are a single man/woman making 65k a year, you would be paying more in federal tax, state tax, local tax, FICA, then you would benefit from every year, even factoring in military and roads.

I'll take a right-libertarian over a socialist any day of the week.

ASAKI

4y

You had a solid point and then dismantled it with your last sentence.