Also toxic masculinity, or b**** tendencies s*** like that all that is just really echo chamber s*** that we get in doses on an everyday basis. Nothing is truly purely toxic or b****y, it’s sort of like communism it’ll never truly succeed on its own so we live in a capitalist system of gender roles that majority lines of thinking oppress smaller ones.

Well that last point it makes sense, don't worry bro, people are just have a mob mentality right now. It will pass.

Yes. And I'd recommend the documentary "I Am A Man: Black Masculinity in America" to get a very in depth look at how it affects black men. If not that, then I recommend the book "Cool Pose".

Interesting, sad to see. Almost like a character you have to act out.

Adding on to this, "The Mask You Live In" is another good doc along these same lines

You can have all of this with standard, healthy masculinity.

There are plenty of challenges in life to strengthen the spirit of men in any generation without the dangerous fractured sense of self that toxic masculinity promotes.

This goes for straight or gay men.

Idk anyone that doesn’t think it’s real. It’s severity is different depending on who you ask but I do think it’s a pretty severe problem for some men. Some dudes are super caught up in their masculinity. It’s performative bullshit half the time too. Your actions shouldn’t be dictated by how you feel you’ll be perceived but a lot of dudes really stress that s***

"masculinity goes hand in hand with being responsible, owning your s***, and being able to lead."

You know those things aren't exclusive to masculinity correct?

The "niggas" are in here

Mostly those people don't understand certain s*** they're toxic about

Also white toxicity and black toxicity differ a lot with only some some overlap

Of course

But WE know that

Tell that to the random toxic dude on the street

Ain't think it through

Yup. Look up masc4masc memes n s***

Yea, it's pretty unhealthy imo. Also annoying when some guys I talk to question if I'm really into them or just curious. Because apparently i act 'straight'.

Even tho i'm out and about with them

Isn’t this basically the definition of a sociopath

I'm strictly speaking in the context of a "masculine man". Those are the traits you would associate one with.

Or would you think masculinity is associated with spinelessness and failure to take responsibility in life?

In another context you can totally be responsible and not be a man. Never implied that was exclusive to masculinity

Wut

I face the same thing because of my physique/lack of a lisps at times and some clothing choices

That Dude was FAR from masculine, he was just full of himself because he thought he would get b****es cuz he had money.

He clearly had no social skills to interact with women which made him rage and do what he did.

Because toxic masculinity is a separate thing than masculinity in it self

That kind of violence is included under that umbrella and often stems from the twisted sense of superiority that men feel they have over women which is absolutely in itself masculinity that has gone to toxic levels.

want to elaborate on this? (im white btw)