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  • plants 🌻
    Jun 23, 2020

    we can do better lads
    together

  • Jun 23, 2020
    Fahim

    Which is corny, and once again shows people lack nuance, not everything is black and white.

    yup, people want to boil these complex topics down to simple answers, it just doesn’t work

  • Jun 23, 2020
    plants

    reading this thread and just

  • Jun 23, 2020
    Sloth

    no love

    That love just takes a while to be accepted

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    Fahim

    Men are brought to not express their emotions like women do, which would be fine except those emotions are practically non-existent, anything other than anger is considered "girly" or "acting like a woman"

    and im not denying thats facts. hence why were on a kanye forum. where 808s is his top 3 on a good day

    that is a bad trait of toxic masculinity

  • Jun 23, 2020
    plants

    reading this thread and just

    Don't use that smiley that's for women

    /s

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    Womanpuncher69

    just curious what are the good traits and why should men portray them rather than other genders

    somewhat relevant

    I was watching this tour of an architects apartment, and people in the comments were saying this what a modern man should look like. Intelligent, soft spoken, and understated.

  • plants 🌻
    Jun 23, 2020
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    What are some of your guys favorite positive male role models? Either IRL or in media.

  • Jun 23, 2020

    What bothers me the most about toxic masculinity is not only about it working towards women, but how us men are expected to fit in that box by the society

  • Jun 23, 2020

    Any nigga smiling in this thread is a woman

  • Jun 23, 2020

    Alright lemme stop trolling now

    back to seriousness

  • Jun 23, 2020
    Tvremote

    and im not denying thats facts. hence why were on a kanye forum. where 808s is his top 3 on a good day

    that is a bad trait of toxic masculinity

    @ me when you reply to choking butterfly

  • plants 🌻
    Jun 23, 2020

    I cried at my wedding when my oldest brother made a toast if that ain't some Real Man S*** then you can kiss my ass.

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    plants

    What are some of your guys favorite positive male role models? Either IRL or in media.

    all my male role models are problematic

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    Mel

    somewhat relevant

    I was watching this tour of an architects apartment, and people in the comments were saying this what a modern man should look like. Intelligent, soft spoken, and understated.

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFu7zE9DnRA

    Looks like a twink in the thumbnail

  • plants 🌻
    Jun 23, 2020
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    Womanpuncher69

    all my male role models are problematic

    name some names brother

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    Fahim

    One problem I have is how often everything that is just simple male behavior (like a handshake or dap) is seen as toxic masculinity.

    I don't want to hear a woman's take on what being a man is, because who am I to say what a woman is

    Don’t know how to read the bit at the bottom in black so not sure if that adds any context, but this struck me as really weird.

    Have heard criticism of handshakes as being culturally insensitive (e.g. some Muslim women don’t like to make physical contact with men) but never heard them described as an example of toxic masculinity. Is this a common opinion?

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    plants

    What are some of your guys favorite positive male role models? Either IRL or in media.

    Idris Elba

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    Womanpuncher69

    just curious what are the good traits and why should men portray them rather than other genders

    Men are born protectors of the family home.

    Strength, courage, leadership,

    whilst toxic masculinity is generally termed to mean men dont express emotions

    its also a movement to demsculize men of other traits. as expressed above

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    You're a special kind of ed if you think is masculinity is an inherently male trait
    Like it's not 1649 anymore lol

  • plants 🌻
    Jun 23, 2020
    Smoofer

    Idris Elba

    Top tier choice as far as I know.

  • Jun 23, 2020
    Fahim

    Looks like a twink in the thumbnail

    Yea he's small lol

    Idk about trying to protray that image or style

    I think just very bookish people would really dig that

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    Mel

    somewhat relevant

    I was watching this tour of an architects apartment, and people in the comments were saying this what a modern man should look like. Intelligent, soft spoken, and understated.

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFu7zE9DnRA

    Men like this have existed for years, Stephen hawking, bill gates, Einstein, jfk, James Baldwin weren't toxic, chauvinistic jocks but rather well educated well spoken men.
    Also, Malcolm X went from toxic behavior to a revolutionary, smart, well read, well spoken man.

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    It's for sure real

    Who is in avi btw

  • Jun 23, 2020
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    Bruh really asked me if niggas acting like a******s is real

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