SegaDreamFlash

5mo

And I like some of these guys for sure it just gets very confusing at times like what’s the criteria

treeman

5mo

Have you heard anything he’s dropped in the last year? Nigga is actually rapping he don’t even use adlibs outside of one new one

notbrock

5mo

Even when I was younger I always looked at what would happen next

I like Thug but I knew the door we were opening when he popped off

Zack From The Six

5mo

2 rappers who don't care about hip hop. Only thing they care about is the bag. I'd like to blame the consumers instead but I get ur point. It's insane how protected Carti is when it comes to criticism

Mr America

5mo

I mean everything changes. Ppl could argue that s*** in the 00s was worse than the 90s and it was ppl in the 90s that didnt even think rap was good at all

SyIIabIes

5mo

Nigga said “ding ding ding” lmao

X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

5mo

it isn’t really about whether or not it’s “good” to me personally, ‘cause i f*** with Ken Carson and some of the other rage music niggas or whatever, it’s more the way the music is treated and perceived for me more than anything else

i personally don’t understand why something like say DS2 is treated as a hip-hop classic in the same breath as a GKMC or a Ready To Die even if i can acknowledge it’s a very well produced, strong hip-hop album

feel like the music is way too different just in general to be treated in one homogenous group where we draw comparisons lowkey

Valentine

5mo

bruh be knowing everything

SyIIabIes

5mo

I didn’t even read what he said it just had me weak cuz it ain’t that serious 😂

bh0stman

5mo

A lot of the actual traditions of hiphop are dying and tbh i wouldnt blame any 2 artists in specific, s*** just changes over time, it feels a lot faster too with the internet

Zack From The Six

5mo

2 rappers who don't care about hip hop. Only thing they care about is the bag. I'd like to blame the consumers instead but I get ur point. It's insane how protected Carti is when it comes to criticism

notbrock

5mo

Even when I was younger I always looked at what would happen next

I like Thug but I knew the door we were opening when he popped off

browser

5mo

Hate to say it but its Wayne and Kanye

808s and Rebirth should have both been under pseudonyms and side mission projects but instead they kinda became the foundation of the next generation of “rap” (narrator: eventually they would discover that that music actually wasnt really rap and it existed at the expense of what we formerly knew as rap dying)

Thug is completely different type of artist if Wayne stays closer to where he was headed in 05-07 with the Dipset Clipse cosplay lol

opiumiku

5mo

yes everyone has imitated carti to death but no one has done it as good or better than he does it, they’re just cheap imitators even mario judah did it pretty well but carti has way more going on than just “baby voice” and weird noises. and i don’t disagree with u storytelling takes skill as well they are both valid forms of art just different forms

browser

5mo

No it doesnt just change over time niggas tried to be rebellious and standoffish to make up for a lack of skill and that has seeped into the 2 generations that have come since the 2016 class lol

And its starting to piss me off niggas is coming to this “thats just the way it is” stance like we aint just watch them do that.

Carti and uzi and etc came with all that “music a vibe” bullshit to mask a lack of dedicated effort and skill and now we just acting like we mysteriously got here. Niggas is stupid fr lol

X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

5mo

ig it depends on how we define songwriting cause that’s a hard disagree for me

prime Eminem had a rtarded pen

there wasn’t a single thing he could not do bro

SegaDreamFlash

5mo

808s had more of an influence on R&B and pop after it than it did rap.

And these new niggas who are doing the I’m a rockstar s*** ain’t really taking from Rebirth in terms of sound imo

Kee

5mo

As soon as he rocked that Durag, it was over

Kee

5mo

As soon as he rocked that Durag, it was over

browser

5mo

808s is the gap moment where Travis Uzi primarily singing with autotune dudes can still call themselves rappers although that all kinda blends together between t pain/future/wayne/ye

Similarly for Rebirth being the gap moment (after party like a rockstar) where we (born 1995 and beyond) even started experimenting with the studded belts and wearing like colored skinnies. For wayne it was moreso the swag and aesthetic mixed with his endless punchline and rapping style

Kee

5mo

As soon as he rocked that Durag, it was over