Nov 25, 2020·1 replySmooferDon’t know of anyone that says people are personally racist because of capitalism so you’re misconstruing that if you think that’s what people are talking about when they say racism emerges from capitalism
Systems are made up of individuals though
RASIE 🦦Nov 25, 2020
Scratchin MambaIt also goes the other way around, racism supports capitalism.
- RASIE 🦦Nov 25, 2020Scratchin Mamba
Overthrowing capitalism is one of thr necessary steps that needs to be taken to get rid of racism, but it won't magically disappear when there are no more private enterprises obviously.
Glad i saw you itt so now i aint gotta respond knowing you've already got it covered
- Nov 25, 2020TragedyBerlusconi
Systems are made up of individuals though
Nov 25, 2020·1 replyTragedyBerlusconiMany do though
Open up twitter and read some radicals, many of them do believe this
What is up with you guys and searching twitter for opinions by accounts with like 4 followers
- Nov 25, 2020·edited·2 repliesSynopsis
What is up with you guys and searching twitter for opinions by accounts with like 4 followers
It's many people lol
You're doing the same no true scotsman fallacy the right do when people pull them up on how far right and racist they are and cant see it cause you're so high on adolescent self righteousness
- Nov 25, 2020·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconi
It's many people lol
You're doing the same no true scotsman fallacy the right do when people pull them up on how far right and racist they are and cant see it cause you're so high on adolescent self righteousness
Link some then. You’re doing that thing where you say “most” without providing any evidence
- Nov 25, 2020TragedyBerlusconi
It's many people lol
You're doing the same no true scotsman fallacy the right do when people pull them up on how far right and racist they are and cant see it cause you're so high on adolescent self righteousness
That's not what the no true scotsmen fallacy is
- Nov 25, 2020Smoofer
Link some then. You’re doing that thing where you say “most” without providing any evidence
And this lol
- Nov 25, 2020·1 replySmoofer
Link some then. You’re doing that thing where you say “most” without providing any evidence
Ask and you'll receive, I'll need to come back and edit this post tho to add more as I'm on mobile
youtu.be/qhh3CMkngkY
^^angela davis claiming racism is intrinsic to capitalism, I respect Angela davis, my disagreement doesnt imply I think she is bad, her work on prisons is good - Nov 25, 2020·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Ask and you'll receive, I'll need to come back and edit this post tho to add more as I'm on mobile
https://youtu.be/qhh3CMkngkY
^^angela davis claiming racism is intrinsic to capitalism, I respect Angela davis, my disagreement doesnt imply I think she is bad, her work on prisons is goodShe’s very clearly talking about racism in a systemic sense here
- Nov 25, 2020·1 reply
And she doesn’t even say that will necessarily cease under socialism, just that it will definitely not under capitalism
- Nov 25, 2020·1 replySmoofer
She’s very clearly talking about racism in a systemic sense here
I'm aware systemic and individual racism is different but I dont see how individual racism wont just express itself through other destructive means without capitalism
We can end private ownership of property, inherited wealth etc, racial animosity which is ultimately born in the individual, because the individual is powerful will re manifest itself and divide even the perfect communistic society
- Nov 25, 2020Smoofer
And she doesn’t even say that will necessarily cease under socialism, just that it will definitely not under capitalism
OP forgetting his whole point lol
- Nov 25, 2020·2 repliesTragedyBerlusconi
I'm aware systemic and individual racism is different but I dont see how individual racism wont just express itself through other destructive means without capitalism
We can end private ownership of property, inherited wealth etc, racial animosity which is ultimately born in the individual, because the individual is powerful will re manifest itself and divide even the perfect communistic society
No one is claiming that socialism will bring an end to random people hating other races
- Nov 25, 2020·1 reply
OP is also a pretentious f***wad
- Nov 25, 2020·1 replySmoofer
No one is claiming that socialism will bring an end to random people hating other races
Of course not but capitalism isnt necessarily what creates the system
The individuals who hate or have prejudice will reproduce the system, getting rid of capitalism is just gonna make it manifest elsewhere
- Nov 25, 2020·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Of course not but capitalism isnt necessarily what creates the system
The individuals who hate or have prejudice will reproduce the system, getting rid of capitalism is just gonna make it manifest elsewhere
Capitalism is literally the system
- Nov 25, 2020·edited·1 replySmoofer
Capitalism is literally the system
So correct me if I'm wrong but you think systemic racism is an inherent function of capitalism? And that without capitalism racism would cease to be systemic? Maybe I'm being slow but this seems like what you're implying, I could have misunderstood dont get me wrong
A capitalist would respond that racism prevents people maximising their potential as a result of prejudice keeping them down, and that systemic racism is a societal reproduction of an individual flaw
- Nov 25, 2020Synopsis
OP is also a pretentious f***wad
Charmed
- Nov 25, 2020·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
So correct me if I'm wrong but you think systemic racism is an inherent function of capitalism? And that without capitalism racism would cease to be systemic? Maybe I'm being slow but this seems like what you're implying, I could have misunderstood dont get me wrong
A capitalist would respond that racism prevents people maximising their potential as a result of prejudice keeping them down, and that systemic racism is a societal reproduction of an individual flaw
I do believe systemic racism is inherent to capitalism because of the intrinsic idea of profiting from workers generated value.
In a socialist or communist system, systemic racism could possibly cease to exist. It might not, but it’s at least not inherent to the system
- Nov 25, 2020·1 reply
krishna boundpeople def confuse ideas of conceptual racism with societal racism. people think certain ideas of racism (which under liberalism are deemed "systematic racism") would disappear under socialism because of industry being sanctioned in a manner in which there are no systematic factors of differentiation, hence there is no systematic difference in treatment in theory. people who think it would disappear under communism similarly think that in an individualist system the concept of guaranteed fruits of labor means there would be no arbitrary infringement by others meaning no systematic factors. anyone who thinks conceptual racism - the idea of people just tribally hating others - would disappear under either have no idea what socialist or communist theory actually is.
This post pretty much sums up the leftist line of thinking but OP just ignored it for some reason
- Nov 25, 2020Smoofer
This post pretty much sums up the leftist line of thinking but OP just ignored it for some reason
I will respond
- Nov 25, 2020·2 repliesSmoofer
I do believe systemic racism is inherent to capitalism because of the intrinsic idea of profiting from workers generated value.
In a socialist or communist system, systemic racism could possibly cease to exist. It might not, but it’s at least not inherent to the system
Alright well guess thered no shaking that belief. I personally believe racism isnt in anyone's best interest long term and is a defevtive behaviour, and that racism ultimately prevents humanity being it's best by preventing minorities and victims reaching their full potential
- Nov 25, 2020TragedyBerlusconi
Alright well guess thered no shaking that belief. I personally believe racism isnt in anyone's best interest long term and is a defevtive behaviour, and that racism ultimately prevents humanity being it's best by preventing minorities and victims reaching their full potential
Uh yeah it's almost like capitalism gets people to act outside of their interests