Nov 30, 2023·edited·4 replies
Sir Swagalota new foundation has to be laid for commercial artists
history will repeat itself, as alwaysAh I didn't see you said mainstream in the title
In that case the next big hip-hop artist won't be a pure hip-hop artist most likely.
There'll always be an audience for that so the genre won't die, but mainstream wise I think you're gonna see less and less cut through and reach Drake, Kendrick, Cole heights.A big factor in Drake's longevity and popularity is his versatility.
Best I Ever Had was essentially a pop-R&B-rap hybrid and that combo with additions every year is what kept him hot.Someone who can mix seamlessly hip-hop with R&B, DnB/House/Garage, or Indie, or electroclash, or funk carioca or whatever other genre that's currently doing well is probably going to be the next superstar you all are looking for.
Like, now Jazz is very popular with the mid-20s crowd, so as much as it's being clowned, that Andre album was actually a very smart move.
If Cartier God was more accessible to mainstream audiences and a more traditional rapper, he'd be someone to look at
- Nov 30, 2023PLO nightingale· edited
Ah I didn't see you said mainstream in the title
In that case the next big hip-hop artist won't be a pure hip-hop artist most likely.
There'll always be an audience for that so the genre won't die, but mainstream wise I think you're gonna see less and less cut through and reach Drake, Kendrick, Cole heights.A big factor in Drake's longevity and popularity is his versatility.
Best I Ever Had was essentially a pop-R&B-rap hybrid and that combo with additions every year is what kept him hot.Someone who can mix seamlessly hip-hop with R&B, DnB/House/Garage, or Indie, or electroclash, or funk carioca or whatever other genre that's currently doing well is probably going to be the next superstar you all are looking for.
Like, now Jazz is very popular with the mid-20s crowd, so as much as it's being clowned, that Andre album was actually a very smart move.
If Cartier God was more accessible to mainstream audiences and a more traditional rapper, he'd be someone to look at
you’re right on the money about versatility…you really have to love music at its core and be openminded to reach the heights of the greats. who else is gonna bring new ideas to the forefront if you’re just stuck in the same rut?
- Nov 30, 2023·2 repliesPLO nightingale· edited
Ah I didn't see you said mainstream in the title
In that case the next big hip-hop artist won't be a pure hip-hop artist most likely.
There'll always be an audience for that so the genre won't die, but mainstream wise I think you're gonna see less and less cut through and reach Drake, Kendrick, Cole heights.A big factor in Drake's longevity and popularity is his versatility.
Best I Ever Had was essentially a pop-R&B-rap hybrid and that combo with additions every year is what kept him hot.Someone who can mix seamlessly hip-hop with R&B, DnB/House/Garage, or Indie, or electroclash, or funk carioca or whatever other genre that's currently doing well is probably going to be the next superstar you all are looking for.
Like, now Jazz is very popular with the mid-20s crowd, so as much as it's being clowned, that Andre album was actually a very smart move.
If Cartier God was more accessible to mainstream audiences and a more traditional rapper, he'd be someone to look at
that jazz comment got me thinking fr…its’ fluidity and improvisational style is the exact opposite to a structured DAW
would be interesting to see if people start to take notice and embrace that approach more 
Nov 30, 2023·1 reply
PurrpWe need another revolutionary trend setter. Remains to be seen if we get one
Who do you consider the revolutionary trend setters from the past, current era?
- Nov 30, 2023Purrp
Kanye got a ton of sons but none even close to his level of cultural (in hip hop/ the community at large) significance. Kanye was changing waves every album at one point. Idk any one active who got it like that rn
Thanos at this point. He mastered multiple areas in music production. This generation wants things quick/no quality
- Purrp 🌚Nov 30, 2023·1 replydarkknight
Who do you consider the revolutionary trend setters from the past, current era?
In hip hop or in general?
Nov 30, 2023·1 replyKtt not the place to talk about the future of Hip-Hop
- Nov 30, 2023·edited·1 replyJayson
Ktt not the place to talk about the future of Hip-Hop
nobody irl gives af either
at least the average person 
Nov 30, 2023·1 replySir Swagalotthat jazz comment got me thinking fr…its’ fluidity and improvisational style is the exact opposite to a structured DAW
would be interesting to see if people start to take notice and embrace that approach moreIt’s something I’ve thought about. But considering how dance music is taking over, it looks like music is going more in the sequenced direction and not away from it. Music without a steady repeating beat is just too alien now to most people as far as mainstream. If I had to guess, I don’t think any fluid or improv musical style will ever have a significant audience
Most of those 20s jazz fans just like Mario kart music low key. It’s a niche crowd but even within that niche, most of them don’t actually listen to jazz as much as they just like certain elements, such as the chords
Nov 30, 2023Drake
- Nov 30, 2023·1 replyPLO nightingale· edited
Ah I didn't see you said mainstream in the title
In that case the next big hip-hop artist won't be a pure hip-hop artist most likely.
There'll always be an audience for that so the genre won't die, but mainstream wise I think you're gonna see less and less cut through and reach Drake, Kendrick, Cole heights.A big factor in Drake's longevity and popularity is his versatility.
Best I Ever Had was essentially a pop-R&B-rap hybrid and that combo with additions every year is what kept him hot.Someone who can mix seamlessly hip-hop with R&B, DnB/House/Garage, or Indie, or electroclash, or funk carioca or whatever other genre that's currently doing well is probably going to be the next superstar you all are looking for.
Like, now Jazz is very popular with the mid-20s crowd, so as much as it's being clowned, that Andre album was actually a very smart move.
If Cartier God was more accessible to mainstream audiences and a more traditional rapper, he'd be someone to look at
What should I listen to from Cartier god in regards to this discussion, is it just jazz Cartier renamed?
- Nov 30, 2023·1 replySir Swagalot
nobody irl gives af either
at least the average personAlso because the people who care about the mainstream don't really do anything in the culture
- Nov 30, 2023·1 replyJayson
Also because the people who care about the mainstream don't really do anything in the culture
they’re the consumers, so they do play a role
- Nov 30, 2023·1 reply
At this point maybe ktt2 should just take on the mantle
Like we say hip hop is dead and then CS is just all of hip hop now and we start over
- Nov 30, 2023·1 reply
monoculture
- Nov 30, 20232words
At this point maybe ktt2 should just take on the mantle
Like we say hip hop is dead and then CS is just all of hip hop now and we start over
unfortunately people have internet brain rot and will probably say some slick s***, but we have people in the industry lurking this site all the f***ing time...homegrown talent should be flourishing on here instead of being stickied for a week as a nice gesture
- Nov 30, 2023Skinn Foley
monoculture
Nov 30, 2023·1 replyidk but drake taking a break is a good thing we might actually get some innovation now
- Nov 30, 2023splice
idk but drake taking a break is a good thing we might actually get some innovation now
is he really taking a break though? plus drake is not the problem...he is a reason not a cause
Nov 30, 2023·1 replySir Swagalotwouldn't be surprised...a lot of people have openly said that they have moved on from hip-hop to country
The people that switched to country music were predestined to listen to country anyway, you don't go to such extremes so easily.
- Nov 30, 2023Tooooooooooot
The people that switched to country music were predestined to listen to country anyway, you don't go to such extremes so easily.
that demographic is what brings in the money sadly
- Nov 30, 2023·1 replyPurrp
In hip hop or in general?
Hip hop
- Nov 30, 2023·2 replies2words
What should I listen to from Cartier god in regards to this discussion, is it just jazz Cartier renamed?
Nah he's very diff kind of artist than Jazz Cartier
Lyrics definitely not his main focus, he's more interested in melodies for the most part and his singing voice gets some getting used to.
Got some great songs tho
Cartier in Da House - House
Once In a Blue Moonn - Drum and Bass
Vapor Drip - vaporwave
Gold Fangz - new romantic/post-punk(?)This guy did a good primer video on him
- Purrp 🌚Nov 30, 2023darkknight
Hip hop
Pac (for better or worse), biggie, Ye, Drake (to a way lesser extent than the rest), Outkast
- Nov 30, 2023PLO nightingale
Nah he's very diff kind of artist than Jazz Cartier
Lyrics definitely not his main focus, he's more interested in melodies for the most part and his singing voice gets some getting used to.
Got some great songs tho
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7IvjTWa8VUCartier in Da House - House
Once In a Blue Moonn - Drum and Bass
Vapor Drip - vaporwave
Gold Fangz - new romantic/post-punk(?)This guy did a good primer video on him
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPPlnUeY-t4Interesting I’m gonna check him out, definitely interested in the genre bending, your post was insightful on how that could be a way forward for a future star. Thanks for sharing
