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  • Apr 10, 2021

    Technically illiterate people just don't understand how impossible this is without it turning into some Chinese social media censorship they'd be fully against.

  • Apr 10, 2021
    ziggy

    Because they don’t care

  • BadKarma

    Supreme Court may end censorship on social media so s***s gonna get wild

    see no way in this backfiring at all.

  • Apr 10, 2021
    CLB Fractions

    maybe they believe in free speech 🙄

    stop being so soft

    agreed. if you dont like someone twitter or whatever just dont go on it, its really that simple. but people continue go on pages they dont agree and wonder why theyre mad lmao

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    It's close to impossible to hire enough people to manually moderate a website with a user base in the hundreds of millions, and relying on an AI leads to people being falsely banned.

    I.E. YouTube banning gay people for their coming out videos.

  • Apr 10, 2021
    RoomOnFire

    Racists shouldn’t be banned. They should be laughed at, mocked, etc. Suppressing their right to express themselves isn’t they way

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    -"stop being so soft"

    -lol they're making threats to eliminate my race on the internet

    -"lol you just ignore it you snowflake softboi."

    niggas want the alt right to just flourish so much lmfao.

  • Apr 10, 2021
    CLB Fractions

    maybe they believe in free speech 🙄

    stop being so soft

  • Apr 10, 2021
    NDL DOOM

    It's close to impossible to hire enough people to manually moderate a website with a user base in the hundreds of millions, and relying on an AI leads to people being falsely banned.

    I.E. YouTube banning gay people for their coming out videos.

    pretty much

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    CLB Fractions

    maybe they believe in free speech 🙄

    stop being so soft

    i mean private ownership can regulate whatever speech they want

    you can't scream slurs to a black or a muslim employee in a walmart without getting kicked out and banned from the establishment for a better a***ogy with this

    first amendment only protects from being arrested by the state for your speech, and even that has exceptions when it directly threatens state power/endangers public safety

    first amendment free speech does not prevent social consequences for it

    there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of free speech in western discourse, meaning that you should be able to say whatever you want without consequence, no matter how horrible it is

    if you tell someone "fuck you, i hope your family dies in a car crash", the social consequences most likely will be that someone will physically respond in a negative way and most likely hurt you

    there are also laws against slander and libel

  • Apr 10, 2021

    Because of the people who use them

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    Dynamic Uno Music

    -"stop being so soft"

    -lol they're making threats to eliminate my race on the internet

    -"lol you just ignore it you snowflake softboi."

    niggas want the alt right to just flourish so much lmfao.

    i mean, we have some lurking here

  • Apr 10, 2021

    nord vpn advertised on disney channel now it aint 2008 anymore

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    Dynamic Uno Music

    -"stop being so soft"

    -lol they're making threats to eliminate my race on the internet

    -"lol you just ignore it you snowflake softboi."

    niggas want the alt right to just flourish so much lmfao.

    it's the paradox of tolerance

    historically, far-right authoritarians have used the right to free speech to get to power, and when they get into power, free speech and anti-gov speech is suppressed

  • Apr 10, 2021

    Forums are significantly smaller and usually have dedicated mods.

    Social media has hundreds of millions of users.

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    Dynamic Uno Music

    -"stop being so soft"

    -lol they're making threats to eliminate my race on the internet

    -"lol you just ignore it you snowflake softboi."

    niggas want the alt right to just flourish so much lmfao.

    Once you start letting them restrict speech, where do you draw the line between what is ok and what isn't?

    What if google starts manipulating search results to favor one politicians over the other?
    Or twitter starts subtly restricting tweets that mention a political candidate that twitter finds a threat to their profits?

    There are movements rn that are aiming to breakup up big tech and I can see these tech companies using their power to make sure that never happens.

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    Dynamic Uno Music

    -"stop being so soft"

    -lol they're making threats to eliminate my race on the internet

    -"lol you just ignore it you snowflake softboi."

    niggas want the alt right to just flourish so much lmfao.

    Also to add that restricting speech is a thin veil over the problem. You aren't going to end racism or even impact it significantly by restricting if you can say racist words online. Racist people will learn to hold their tongue but thier thoughts will remain the same

  • Apr 10, 2021
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    Nayvadius Wilburn

    Once you start letting them restrict speech, where do you draw the line between what is ok and what isn't?

    What if google starts manipulating search results to favor one politicians over the other?
    Or twitter starts subtly restricting tweets that mention a political candidate that twitter finds a threat to their profits?

    There are movements rn that are aiming to breakup up big tech and I can see these tech companies using their power to make sure that never happens.

    They don’t even need to use the justification of censorship. Just look at the s*** with Tulsi and Google.

    She was trending after one of the debates, and Google just mysteriously suspended her ad account, so they couldn’t publish ads while her name had some buzz. She tried to sue them and the courts ruled that it’s a private company, so it’s free game.

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    Buckleys Angel

    They don’t even need to use the justification of censorship. Just look at the s*** with Tulsi and Google.

    She was trending after one of the debates, and Google just mysteriously suspended her ad account, so they couldn’t publish ads while her name had some buzz. She tried to sue them and the courts ruled that it’s a private company, so it’s free game.

    Exactly there are bigger issues at play than people getting their feelings hurt that some redneck is allowed to say n word online

  • Apr 10, 2021
    Nayvadius Wilburn

    Exactly there are bigger issues at play than people getting their feelings hurt that some redneck is allowed to say n word online

    I don’t necessarily disagree, but my point is more that they don’t even need to use the guise of censorship.

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    Also to add that restricting speech is a thin veil over the problem. You aren't going to end racism or even impact it significantly by restricting if you can say racist words online. Racist people will learn to hold their tongue but thier thoughts will remain the same

    the internet is how those ideals spread and get normalized

    neo-nazi/other extremist movements which have decentralized for the modern age have excelled at radicalizing youth heavily through this s***

    you start at culture war “why are people getting mad for throwing n-bombs on COD” discourse then go talk about “cultural marxism” and “liberal jew agendas” and end at advocating for ethnic cleansing of minorities and the “day of the rope”, i’ve seen it happen myself

    i wrote a post above, stating that the right of free speech does not protect from consequences

    most conservative arguments that try to go for “absolute and unmoderated” free speech don’t understand that free speech gets used to take away others safety in the discourse (nazis harassing feminists, etc.), there’s very much a reason why people don’t have proper conservations on 4chan about issues affecting minorities

    conservative arguments mostly boil down to the rejection of social consequences and that they want to say whatever reprehensible things they want without people objecting to it

    it’s a complicated and nuanced discussion that needs to be had without the s***ty takes of “OH LOL LETS JUST NOT HAVE MODERATION”

  • Apr 11, 2021
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    Nayvadius Wilburn

    Also to add that restricting speech is a thin veil over the problem. You aren't going to end racism or even impact it significantly by restricting if you can say racist words online. Racist people will learn to hold their tongue but thier thoughts will remain the same

    So just let em just gain a platform cause....free speech?

  • necromancer

    i mean, we have some lurking here

    I know, both of them just had a back and forth on this page talkin bout f*** censorship.

  • Apr 11, 2021
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    Dynamic Uno Music

    So just let em just gain a platform cause....free speech?

    For the sake of a greater problem yes.

  • Apr 11, 2021
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    Nayvadius Wilburn

    For the sake of a greater problem yes.

    we know what side you'd be on during the civil rights movement/holocaust.

    you white?