Apr 11, 2021
necromancerthe internet is how those ideals spread and get normalized
neo-nazi/other extremist movements which have decentralized for the modern age have excelled at radicalizing youth heavily through this s***
you start at culture war “why are people getting mad for throwing n-bombs on COD” discourse then go talk about “cultural marxism” and “liberal jew agendas” and end at advocating for ethnic cleansing of minorities and the “day of the rope”, i’ve seen it happen myself
i wrote a post above, stating that the right of free speech does not protect from consequences
most conservative arguments that try to go for “absolute and unmoderated” free speech don’t understand that free speech gets used to take away others safety in the discourse (nazis harassing feminists, etc.), there’s very much a reason why people don’t have proper conservations on 4chan about issues affecting minorities
conservative arguments mostly boil down to the rejection of social consequences and that they want to say whatever reprehensible things they want without people objecting to it
it’s a complicated and nuanced discussion that needs to be had without the s***ty takes of “OH LOL LETS JUST NOT HAVE MODERATION”
I agree with what you said. Though I think its an exaggeration to think most youth will simply become radicalized because there's more hate speech allowed on social media platforms. I think the issue goes much deeper than simply speech.
Growing up it was quite common to use homophobic phrases as an insult online and in jokey ways with friends, but that didn't result in a new generation of people who grew up hating lgbt people.
I think there needs to be direct rules that can specify when censorship is ok (ex hate speech) and when it is not ok. There are talks of taking this issue to the supreme court, so we will see then.
Apr 11, 2021necromanceri mean private ownership can regulate whatever speech they want
you can't scream slurs to a black or a muslim employee in a walmart without getting kicked out and banned from the establishment for a better a***ogy with this
first amendment only protects from being arrested by the state for your speech, and even that has exceptions when it directly threatens state power/endangers public safety
first amendment free speech does not prevent social consequences for it
there seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of free speech in western discourse, meaning that you should be able to say whatever you want without consequence, no matter how horrible it is
if you tell someone "fuck you, i hope your family dies in a car crash", the social consequences most likely will be that someone will physically respond in a negative way and most likely hurt you
there are also laws against slander and libel
"i mean private ownership can regulate whatever speech they want"
not really theres already so many protected classes.
businesses cant kick you out for what ever reason they want already.
Politicians cant block people etc.
Having major platforms not be able to ban people should be a thing as well. They are almost acting as publishers. (Its different thing if its a direct call to action)
The government has made it so private water companies cant shut off water as well.
- Apr 11, 2021necromancer
it's the paradox of tolerance
historically, far-right authoritarians have used the right to free speech to get to power, and when they get into power, free speech and anti-gov speech is suppressed
left authoritarians are against free speech as well.
- Apr 11, 2021·2 replies
Dynamic Uno Musicwe know what side you'd be on during the civil rights movement/holocaust.
you white?
No Im not white, but I see you like to project your ideas of what my skin color is strictly based off of my world views.
What does the holocaust have to do with anything right now?
Just because I support free speech doesn't mean I share conservatives view on issues like policy brutality or UBI. So stop projecting and have a discourse person to person not playing left vs right.
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
we know what side you'd be on during the civil rights movement/holocaust.
you white?
black and other poc and lgbtq people have been deplatformed to
- Apr 11, 2021Nayvadius Wilburn
No Im not white, but I see you like to project your ideas of what my skin color is strictly based off of my world views.
What does the holocaust have to do with anything right now?
Just because I support free speech doesn't mean I share conservatives view on issues like policy brutality or UBI. So stop projecting and have a discourse person to person not playing left vs right.
they always do that
- Apr 11, 2021·2 repliesNayvadius Wilburn
No Im not white, but I see you like to project your ideas of what my skin color is strictly based off of my world views.
What does the holocaust have to do with anything right now?
Just because I support free speech doesn't mean I share conservatives view on issues like policy brutality or UBI. So stop projecting and have a discourse person to person not playing left vs right.
Hitler started off as a propagandist and it was all good because "oh just free speech." Imagine if earlier on there was some move/attempt to shut him tf up.
a nazi/alt-right nigga building up a platform based upon the extermination of my race no longer lives under the guise of free speech anymore. it is terrorism and a direct risk towards my people. I'm never, EVER gonna say a dylan roof type of cracker deserves a platform because of "free speech."
- Apr 11, 2021CLB Fractions
black and other poc and lgbtq people have been deplatformed to
names.
cause milo being gay don't mean he didn't deserve to be platformed too.
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
Hitler started off as a propagandist and it was all good because "oh just free speech." Imagine if earlier on there was some move/attempt to shut him tf up.
a nazi/alt-right nigga building up a platform based upon the extermination of my race no longer lives under the guise of free speech anymore. it is terrorism and a direct risk towards my people. I'm never, EVER gonna say a dylan roof type of cracker deserves a platform because of "free speech."
you're the type to jail people for speech
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyCLB Fractions
you're the type to jail people for speech
the fact that that's all you got from my post says a lot. :word:
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
the fact that that's all you got from my post says a lot. :word:
call to action isnt free speech btw...
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyCLB Fractions
call to action isnt free speech btw...
and soon Tha GOAT will realize the reason why most these alt-right/nazi type people have been getting deplatformed now
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
and soon Tha GOAT will realize the reason why most these alt-right/nazi type people have been getting deplatformed now
nope people have been banned for questioning a new vaccine.
im not defending people who have done actual calls to action
- Apr 11, 2021·1 reply
"Growing up it was quite common to use homophobic phrases as an insult online and in jokey ways with friends, but that didn't result in a new generation of people who grew up hating lgbt people."
:word: :word: :word: :word: :word: :word:Oh!
I'm debating with niggas that don't even go outside. @sniper
If I had seen this earlier that would've saved me a good 5 minutes.
Apr 11, 2021The N-Word got its own button holy s***
- Apr 11, 2021
I’m in tears man
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyCLB Fractions
nope people have been banned for questioning a new vaccine.
im not defending people who have done actual calls to action
literally spreading false information is free speech?
- Apr 11, 2021
Yes, I’ll have just a crumb of xenophobia today, thanks Intel!
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
literally spreading false information is free speech?
"spreading false info"
but yes it is. people have been banned for saying there are only two genders, questioning reliability of the new vaccine, trustworthiness of johnson and johnson, and for just wrong think.
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyCLB Fractions
"spreading false info"
but yes it is. people have been banned for saying there are only two genders, questioning reliability of the new vaccine, trustworthiness of johnson and johnson, and for just wrong think.
"people have been banned for saying there are only two genders"
Because science has proven this is inaccurate. So anyone that still says this is either pushing false information, being transphobic, or thinking they can push some edgy joke.
I aint heard nobody on here getting banned for questioning reliability of the new vaccine, it's been way too many threads dissing them in this sxn.
Still waiting on you to say names of POC and LGBTQ that's been deplatformed btw
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyDynamic Uno Music
"people have been banned for saying there are only two genders"
Because science has proven this is inaccurate. So anyone that still says this is either pushing false information, being transphobic, or thinking they can push some edgy joke.
I aint heard nobody on here getting banned for questioning reliability of the new vaccine, it's been way too many threads dissing them in this sxn.
Still waiting on you to say names of POC and LGBTQ that's been deplatformed btw
not addressing first part.
farakhan and milo that were decent size platforms
- Apr 11, 2021Dynamic Uno Music
Hitler started off as a propagandist and it was all good because "oh just free speech." Imagine if earlier on there was some move/attempt to shut him tf up.
a nazi/alt-right nigga building up a platform based upon the extermination of my race no longer lives under the guise of free speech anymore. it is terrorism and a direct risk towards my people. I'm never, EVER gonna say a dylan roof type of cracker deserves a platform because of "free speech."
Censorship laws and state control of radio that the Weimar Republic enforced in the 20’s is what allowed the Nazis to take immediate control of the flow of information in Germany when they came to power and Hitler was arrested for organizing a violent coup within a few years of getting involved in the Nazi party- he was never really just skating by on “free speech”.
- Apr 11, 2021·1 replyCLB Fractions
not addressing first part.
farakhan and milo that were decent size platforms
you brought up a homophobic bigot that's said many actually ant-semitic statements and another man who's bashed Muslims, Black Lives Matter activists, feminists, and led an entire cyber attack against Leslie Jones.
aight nigga.
- Apr 11, 2021
not really twitter ip bans