ktt2.com/igor-is-a-glorified-mashup-album-32514366 i think there's great discussion to be had here.

While I think OP's point is overblown, there is something to say to question the validity of written, produced, and arrangement by Tyler Okama which is prominently featured on the cover art of the album.

Not trying to stir any s*** but I think it's a worthy discussion about how we view bodies of work by how they are presented to us.

he credited the og songwriters

that statement on the album cover is technically true

KTT2 censorship

Golf Wangers run this site.

KTT full of nerds that actually know when Camp Flog Nawge is

so they lock threads up criticizing that dork

There’s no point. He sampled artists and he gave credit. Did he do it in the best way? It was ehh but hems technically right.

It’s a big stretch to flex that on the album cover lol, it definitely feels like a fake attempt to inflate his own artistry/brand

Sure, but that's VERY different than how it was presented in my opinion.

Sampling is the backbone of hip hop so im not about to be on no weird s*** and say he's not allowed to sample, but in the context of his career its kind of weird he stood on that for this project in particular that is his most sampled heavy work.

Like I promise you if Dilla did this for Donuts or the Dj shadow for Endtroducing y;all would be a little more critical of it.

what I will say is that two of the best songs on the album feature no samples at all ( Earfquake and Running out of time) and I think they're some of the best s*** he's ever made

hes a pretentious hipster from day one with an ego and inferiority complex (making a whole gangstagrillz tape after being called mysterious music)

two producers famous for their sampling style/groove

course they wouldnt say they say they composed since every song sounds obviously sample heavy

Yeah but this misrepresentation of his work gotta be one of the most transparently lame manifestations of that

pop 2 vs igor

That’s why tyler doing it is almost worse lol

If DJ shadow said it people wouldn’t be fooled

With Tyler he has the reputation of playing his own s*** so he can literally rap on a Gravediggaz beat and be credited as the sole producer and have the album art say he wrote produced and arranged everything. How tf did he write produce and arrange some of those Call Me tracks? He barely even really publicized it that he was rapping on other people’s beats on that album, despite the talk about showing love for hip hop and the mixtape style, he didn’t really bother to highlight that aspect at all. Seems convenient

cant tell if this is an awge sub or nah

"They"

tyler has always been a pretentious schmuck with an individuality complex but he's one of the rare artists whose music benefits from him being the cornball that he is

ag cook is on whole another level compared to tyler

I mostly agree but this example, not just for Igor but especially for Call Me, is so egregious and lacking self awareness that it’s just the most “wrong” he’s ever seemed to me as a fan. To put that message on a mixtape album where you’re rapping on other people’s beats is just so wild

he credited the coproducers on 3 tracks on call me,at least thats what im reading on wikipedia rn

idk what you talking bout
did he pull an 2013 travis scott n steal beats or sum

That's what people are trying to say about IGOR. Very sample heavy, he doesn't do much to change the originals. But he puts that on the cover

Tyler retweeted a tweet with the full credits right after that thread dropped and contacted the mods to have it locked

He’s the sole producer of Lumberjack lol he didn’t do s*** to it, we sampling whole beats now and telling our young fans we wrote produced and arranged it he took a prince Paul/RZA beat and said he produced wrote and arranged it

knowing most won’t read the full credits for samples and even if they do, they will assume you did something to produce it

And to clarify this isn’t about the act of rapping on other people’s s*** which is obviously hip hop and I get that call me is kind of a “commercial mixtape” but the presentation was very questionable I’m sorry. For all the things he makes a point of, he really didn’t make a point to show love to the original track when Lumberjack dropped or clarify what the beat was

I was in that thread and people were acting like we have a problem with him sampling. It's putting that disclaimer on the cover that's the problem. Especially with how obscure some of the samples are, people will end up giving him more credit than he deserves