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  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 17, 2022
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    Did you read The Idiot?

    The setting reminds me of Anna Karenina.

    They are 2 completely different books but have their similarities as far as the setting.

  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 17, 2022
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    Regarding the writing style, I always find it hard to comment on this with translated literature.

    Unless you read it in the native it’s always difficult to comment on this. The writing style can be completely different between translations.

    Some translations makes you feel the book is unreadable. That’s not the books fault but the fault of the translation. When you pick up a different translation it feels completely different.

    That’s why I want to learn Russian, but that will take so much time to be able to read these classics in the native language.

  • Oct 17, 2022
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    After I'm done need someone to explain me Demons

  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 17, 2022
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    U native Russian?

    If so that also explains why u prefer Tolstoy
    Read that most Russians prefer Tolstoy over Dostoyevsky and that pretty much everyone in high school hates Dostoyevsky.

  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 17, 2022
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    Smoochill

    After I'm done need someone to explain me Demons

    Heard that its the most difficult one to get your head around.

    After I finished The Idiot I plan on reading TBK and after that demons, saving it for last.

    Might read The Player in between if I feel like reading something a bit more short.

  • Oct 17, 2022
    KFA

    Heard that its the most difficult one to get your head around.

    After I finished The Idiot I plan on reading TBK and after that demons, saving it for last.

    Might read The Player in between if I feel like reading something a bit more short.

    Yeah fam, it kinda got all the worst traits of Fyodor as a writer and it's mad sloppy but I'm reading one chapter per day because I stan.

  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 18, 2022
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    Something not Dostoyevsky related, but did you read something from Даниил Хармс?

    I bought a translated version, but I don't really get the appeal. But I read he is hugely appreciated in Russia, is this true?

    And what's your opinion on him if you read him?

  • Oct 18, 2022
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    Hmm, I’m the opposite.

    I agree that Tolstoy is ‘lighter’ in his content - but I actually prefer Dostoevsky for that very reason. I think the beauty of Dostoevsky’s writing is he’s able to delve into the inner psyche of his characters — I don’t think I’ve ever read anyone who is as compelling in writing about the psychological essence as he.

    On the other hand, I think Tolstoy is a bit more of a realist author, a lot of his writing is on societal relationships with a historical backdrop. (Take, War & Peace, for instance, where he muses on and on about his philosophy on war and what causes it).

    Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 18, 2022
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    Just finished The Idiot and what an amazing book!

    I have some questions about the book and what Dostoyevsky means with it. I'll spoiler it for the people who haven't read it, although the book really cannot be spoiled imo.

    Myshkin is supposed to be Christ himself and Dostoyevsky apparently shared the ideas/philosphy of Myshkin. Why does everything that Myshkin does end in misery? Nothing works out in the end. God doesn't help Myshkin, his wedding gets cancelled at the last minute, he lost Aglaya, all the people think he is an idiot, which he is. I do have a lot of respect for Myshkins philosphy but when you take it to the extreme it just doesn't work, that's what this book shows. Why does Dostoyevsky let Myshkin fail? He could've chosen to show that that kind of philosophy could/can work and preach it. Instead he choose to let Myshkin fail miserably. I'm glad he did tho because that's much more realistic and makes the novel a lot more interesting and exciting to read. Also the name of the book The Idiot makes me feel like Dostoyevsky also thought Myshkin was an idiot, but Dostoyevsky himself shared his philosphy. Quite the paradox

  • Oct 18, 2022
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    KFA

    Just finished The Idiot and what an amazing book!

    I have some questions about the book and what Dostoyevsky means with it. I'll spoiler it for the people who haven't read it, although the book really cannot be spoiled imo.

    Myshkin is supposed to be Christ himself and Dostoyevsky apparently shared the ideas/philosphy of Myshkin. Why does everything that Myshkin does end in misery? Nothing works out in the end. God doesn't help Myshkin, his wedding gets cancelled at the last minute, he lost Aglaya, all the people think he is an idiot, which he is. I do have a lot of respect for Myshkins philosphy but when you take it to the extreme it just doesn't work, that's what this book shows. Why does Dostoyevsky let Myshkin fail? He could've chosen to show that that kind of philosophy could/can work and preach it. Instead he choose to let Myshkin fail miserably. I'm glad he did tho because that's much more realistic and makes the novel a lot more interesting and exciting to read. Also the name of the book The Idiot makes me feel like Dostoyevsky also thought Myshkin was an idiot, but Dostoyevsky himself shared his philosphy. Quite the paradox

    It’s been a while since I read the novel, but I think you’re on the right sort of lines.

    Overall, I think the message of the novel was that of the strife that a truly noble spirit will inevitably come up against in the crucible that is human existence. Said person with their unbearable purity will end up an Idiot.

    Have you read the Brothers K? It’s interesting to see Myshkin to Alyosha as the former is basically the prototype to the latter.

    Contextually, I think both Myshkin and Alyosha were written as Dostoevsky grew older in life and saw the ideal man in contemporary Russia being Alyosha — almost opposed by his earlier works with the Underground Man, Raskolnikov, and Stavrogin, who very much represent the nihilistic side of human psyche.

  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 19, 2022
    Grenouille

    It’s been a while since I read the novel, but I think you’re on the right sort of lines.

    Overall, I think the message of the novel was that of the strife that a truly noble spirit will inevitably come up against in the crucible that is human existence. Said person with their unbearable purity will end up an Idiot.

    Have you read the Brothers K? It’s interesting to see Myshkin to Alyosha as the former is basically the prototype to the latter.

    Contextually, I think both Myshkin and Alyosha were written as Dostoevsky grew older in life and saw the ideal man in contemporary Russia being Alyosha — almost opposed by his earlier works with the Underground Man, Raskolnikov, and Stavrogin, who very much represent the nihilistic side of human psyche.

    I haven’t read TBK yet, but I do have it on my bookshelf.

    Wanted to read The Idiot first before I started with TBK. It will be the next Dostoyevsky I will read. Probably will read it this year.

    After what you said it made me even more curious and interested in the book.

  • KFA 🏛️
    Oct 22, 2022

    Is it a good idea to start reading TBK right after you finished The Idiot?

    Not sure if I should do this right now or read a couple of other books before I start with TBK.

  • Dec 14, 2022
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    maxx

    Source?

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    LIL INTRO VERT

    Source?

    idk

  • Dec 14, 2022
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    maxx

    idk

    You don't know where you got this iamge from? I wanna see more of this type of a***ysis

  • Dec 14, 2022
    LIL INTRO VERT

    You don't know where you got this iamge from? I wanna see more of this type of a***ysis

    naw probably 4chan

  • KFA 🏛️
    Dec 22, 2022
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    gregor samsa

    ~200 pages into both crime and punishment and brothers karamazov
    50 pages into the idiot
    which should i finish first?

    Bro reading 3 Dostoyevsky novels at the same time

  • Dec 22, 2022
    KFA

    Bro reading 3 Dostoyevsky novels at the same time

    Bro's either a philosophical savant or his brain is fried

  • Dec 22, 2022
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    KFA

    Bro reading 3 Dostoyevsky novels at the same time

    and finished none of them

  • Dec 22, 2022
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    gregor samsa

    and finished none of them

    why