That’s my point though. 21 ain’t ever sell d****. The migos are from the burbs. Don’t matter where you’re from. Most modern trap artists talk about doing d**** more then selling anyway. Rodeo is heavily trap inspired and uses more trap elements then any other genre in the album. Trap music ain’t about just saying you trapping no more
good point on Migos, but their early music was entirely about trapping, and they were major pioneers of 2010s style trap music. also, Offset’s been locked up various times throughout the Migos’ career, so they were definitely trapping.
21’s early music was also entirely about trapping, and his current music still is most of the time.
Travis Scott’s music has never been about trapping, it’s always been about taking d**** & rocking designer clothes.
all these garbage takes about trap production. It’s all about subject matter and the tempo. Being able to believe the artists helps
good point on Migos, but their early music was entirely about trapping, and they were major pioneers of 2010s style trap music. also, Offset’s been locked up various times throughout the Migos’ career, so they were definitely trapping.
21’s early music was also entirely about trapping, and his current music still is most of the time.
Travis Scott’s music has never been about trapping, it’s always been about taking d**** & rocking designer clothes.
21 savage got a song where he says he ain’t ever sell a brick. Ion think I hear him talk about trapping, just street s***. Do you understand this is just music? Like do you want street rappers to be actual murderers? Also how tf can you classify music based on who’s really “about it” since you could never really know unless they get locked up. Just seems like a stupid way to classify a genre
21 savage got a song where he says he ain’t ever sell a brick. Ion think I hear him talk about trapping, just street s***. Do you understand this is just music? Like do you want street rappers to be actual murderers? Also how tf can you classify music based on who’s really “about it” since you could never really know unless they get locked up. Just seems like a stupid way to classify a genre
we’re going in circles. it’s literally this simple: if the music is about trapping, it is trap music. if the music is not about trapping but is made by someone who typically makes trap music, it is still trap music.
if someone who has never made any music about trapping makes a song with a certain drum pattern and autotune, that is not trap music, it was just inspired by trap music.
it doesn’t get much simpler than that.
we’re going in circles. it’s literally this simple: if the music is about trapping, it is trap music. if the music is not about trapping but is made by someone who typically makes trap music, it is still trap music.
if someone who has never made any music about trapping makes a song with a certain drum pattern and autotune, that is not trap music, it was just inspired by trap music.
it doesn’t get much simpler than that.
Never called Travis a trap artist
That Hustle Gang album from 2016 is one of the better mixed ones I've heard.
TI albums are always mixed well
for the mixing it doesnt matter the story of the songs
the songs are produced with the same drumkits, 808's, etc, so from most part is gonna be mixed the same way
from real gangstas to studio gangstas, even sam smith got some music with trap drumkits and the procedures of the mixing are the pretty much the same
they aint trappers, but those pop artists and pop rappers, whatever artists like post malone have better mixing in their "trap musics" than most real trappers
if 21 savage is not a real trapper
go for young thug, his last albums are probably the best
yes, that’s my point
calling Rodeo trap just because there are artists who make trap music featured on it makes as much sense as calling More Life grime because Skepta is featured on it
i don’t think anybody only considers rodeo trap because of the features. it contains a lot of trap production and travis adjusts to that style vocally on a good portion of the record
skepta is not featured on more life, but yes there is zero traces of the grime sound on it
trap does have its own sound, but if you make that style music without being a trapper/without rapping about trapping, that’s not trap music, that’s music inspired by trap music
but either way, like half of Rodeo sounds nothing like trap music, and the other half only does because there are actual trap artists featured on those songs
not necessarily true anymore, the sound has more or less outgrown the subject matter. similar to how g-funk was exclusive to west coast gangsta rappers until it expanded to all kinds of artists from other regions
and only like 4 or maybe 5 songs on rodeo don’t contain any shades of trap (I don’t call it a trap album btw, but I can see why people do)
i never implied that those guys aren’t trap…
Yes im saying ONLY guys with that sound and that subject matter are trap
Travis and Carti arent trap
Half of the niggas you'd consider trap artists talk more about using d**** then selling nowadays Yall niggas push this definition but trap has moved beyond that. S*** 21 never talk about selling d**** but yall would consider him trap. Majority of Rodeo is heavily trap inspired down the drums idk wtf u listening too
One of his first big songs
not necessarily true anymore, the sound has more or less outgrown the subject matter. similar to how g-funk was exclusive to west coast gangsta rappers until it expanded to all kinds of artists from other regions
and only like 4 or maybe 5 songs on rodeo don’t contain any shades of trap (I don’t call it a trap album btw, but I can see why people do)
G-Funk always referred to a production style, trap was about the subject matter similar to conscious rap.
y'all keep throwing names out here but u not saying why the mixes are good
Honestly if you want a more technical answer
It has to be that Roddy Ricch album which had The Box
I'm not a fan but this would be at least one of the 5 best answers to your question IMO
Trap is Gucci Mane, Dolph, Jeezy, Future (especially before 2017), Yo Gotti
Go argue with ya momma
This is the most sensible post ITT
Not to resurrect a 4 year-old discussion, but there's plenty of flaws in the mixing.
Crazy sibillance on drake's verses on sicko mode
Annoying pop on stargazing (which mike dean claims was intentional. Great, it intentionally sounds like s***!)
this weird pitch correction artifact on "stop trying to be god"
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcXp7m1g5yE&t=89sNav's verse on the OG mix of Yosemite being buried
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykMHDKB0-1o&t=118sI think the use of clipping is cool on the album, but there's lots goofy stuff going on too
Every Mike project has massive mixing flaws
But most of the time his unconventional style makes it absolutely beautiful
High risk high reward
Peep his first solo album btw mixing is top notch. Also a very relaxing and introspective listen
Yes im saying ONLY guys with that sound and that subject matter are trap
Travis and Carti arent trap
except that isnt true..
what is carti then?
G-Funk always referred to a production style, trap was about the subject matter similar to conscious rap.
not anymore lol, trap literally is a production style
Niggas in here saying Rodeo, Beautiful Thugger Girls, and Luv is Rage 2 are trap albums..
Where did we lose the plot?
not anymore lol, trap literally is a production style
Can be both. Trap as style of production and the old fashioned meaning.