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  • Jan 5
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    Vino

    S***, if anything, Future and Drake dug in even further with their projects that specifically centered on a sound their fans liked, like side a/side b Scorpion or Hndrxx/Future and so on then just rotating the two or combining.

    From there, either fans will love it or continue to hate but eventually you wind back up at Life is Good and Wait for U

    Just listen to 56 nights or Monster

    And then listen to We don't trust you

    Lyrically, production wise, it's pretty similar unless you're reaallyyyy digging deep.

    And I say that as a compliment to Future. The music business is all about giving the people what they tell you they want, and they tell you what they want in the form of support.

    Every flagship Drake album for eternity will be about half slaps and trap / half R&B / and sprinkle in a few 'rap' records for the rap aficionados.

    The hardest part of the business is finding what connects with the consumer. Once you do that, you beat that formula into the ground.

  • Jan 5
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    Btw Lil Baby over 110K first week so it's not like he's completely not connecting.

    Have to remember btw an artist 'connecting' has to do with a myriad of factors, with the music playing the small part.

  • Jan 5
    BrickellBayside

    Just listen to 56 nights or Monster

    And then listen to We don't trust you

    Lyrically, production wise, it's pretty similar unless you're reaallyyyy digging deep.

    And I say that as a compliment to Future. The music business is all about giving the people what they tell you they want, and they tell you what they want in the form of support.

    Every flagship Drake album for eternity will be about half slaps and trap / half R&B / and sprinkle in a few 'rap' records for the rap aficionados.

    The hardest part of the business is finding what connects with the consumer. Once you do that, you beat that formula into the ground.

    Nah facts bro. I wasn’t a fan of High Off Life cause I thought he was moving backwards after Pluto x Baby Pluto and he deadass gave me the same album in a way I would like it the next album with INLY. Both very similar albums, but with a slightly different energy, more developed beats on INLY that really flex Future’s strengths on hard trap beats

  • Jan 5
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    insertcoolnamehere

    Kenny Mason 4 president.

    Turned me off a lil with 9 and the blatant cosplay of Drake ATL cosplay in every non-rock song on there (six of the nine to be exact were Drake cosplay). But that Angel Eyes was solid

  • BRAVE

    Turned me off a lil with 9 and the blatant cosplay of Drake ATL cosplay in every non-rock song on there (six of the nine to be exact were Drake cosplay). But that Angel Eyes was solid

    Listen that album gave us Chosen, Luminous, US, Feel It, and Jumpin In (would love to know as someone from Atlanta how any of these sound like Drake ATL) so I'm satisfied

  • not switching it up enough but he also doesn’t sound as hungry anymore

  • Jan 6
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    Baby was a pandemic rapper sadly imo

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    NewCopeJustDropped

    Genuine question. If you just hate baby you can skip this thread. I’m really interested in hearing from fans who thinks his last two albums or this last one is a disappointment. This was also made because I saw his first day Spotify numbers and I’m surprised.

    He’s “presence” in the game was amplified after his George Floyd riot song. Really it was one of the few successful attempts from a street rapper to take a social stance in a song and it actually worked!!!

    Da baby tired but it didn’t hit right after Lil Baby. ( I loosely remember if it was da baby or not)

    I think the hype has died down plus we’re so fickle as consumers in rap. This is only
    Exacerbated by social media opinions on what’s actually popping in rap or what’s not.

    Lil baby is not bigger than the game.

  • soapmanwun

    2019-2021 was so ass for rap that he didn't have much competition

    I’d argue that this was the era Baby strived in the most.

  • Jan 6
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    We’re all looking for the next Drake. It’s not happening. No one can hold the rap game down for as long as Drake did.

    Sadly we must admit the rap genre on its own is a HARD game.
    Baby only offers rap.

    He might need to hop in his the House or Dudstep bag or sum

  • headieone

    Baby was a pandemic rapper sadly imo

    Yes. This in so many words.

  • These street niggas get on features with every one mad early.

    That also needs to slow down a bit. 3 features max per album. MAX!!

    Niggas got 10 features on an album…..

  • Jan 6
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    headieone

    Baby was a pandemic rapper sadly imo

    No he wasn’t. 2017-2018 was his best music and he fell off when he actually deviated too far from that sound

    This like saying Wayne was a 08-09 rapper lol

    2017-2018 quay global beats culminating with freestyle is why he even has the opportunity to “fall off”

  • CLB Wineboy

    We’re all looking for the next Drake. It’s not happening. No one can hold the rap game down for as long as Drake did.

    Sadly we must admit the rap genre on its own is a HARD game.
    Baby only offers rap.

    He might need to hop in his the House or Dudstep bag or sum

    This is ridiculous

    This another problem everyone isnt a kanye drake type genre bending artist

    You got niggas who havent even mastered their own lane of street rap trying to make afrobeats and s*** as a substitute for knowing how to actually rap lol

    Baby just needs new beats and a different approach but the music industry so money driven theyll hop on a million trends before fundamentally mastering that lol

  • Jan 6
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    inspoeater

    No he wasn’t. 2017-2018 was his best music and he fell off when he actually deviated too far from that sound

    This like saying Wayne was a 08-09 rapper lol

    2017-2018 quay global beats culminating with freestyle is why he even has the opportunity to “fall off”

    “Best music” is an opinion

    Baby’s music really hit

    Since the pandemic Baby hasn’t had anything that has impacted as hard as anything he did in the pandemic

    He has dropped two albums since then and both have been consecutive steps backward

    The sound is mundane

    He caught a wave and that was it and that’s fine

    Him disappearing for so long to come back with mostly the same beats, rapping with no real enthusiasm, not trying no new flows shows how artistically stunted he is

    He has great rapping ability but rarely shows it any more

    Gunna is thriving and he isn’t

    Do you see the difference?

    Baby also didn’t go jail so what’s his excuse?

  • Jan 6

    His biggest appeal to me was his hunger, along with semi-decent beat selection. He's lost both, and hasn't changed anything else.

  • BrickellBayside

    Btw Lil Baby over 110K first week so it's not like he's completely not connecting.

    Have to remember btw an artist 'connecting' has to do with a myriad of factors, with the music playing the small part.

  • Jan 6
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    headieone

    “Best music” is an opinion

    Baby’s music really hit

    Since the pandemic Baby hasn’t had anything that has impacted as hard as anything he did in the pandemic

    He has dropped two albums since then and both have been consecutive steps backward

    The sound is mundane

    He caught a wave and that was it and that’s fine

    Him disappearing for so long to come back with mostly the same beats, rapping with no real enthusiasm, not trying no new flows shows how artistically stunted he is

    He has great rapping ability but rarely shows it any more

    Gunna is thriving and he isn’t

    Do you see the difference?

    Baby also didn’t go jail so what’s his excuse?

    He is on pace to outsell Gunna again.

  • Jan 6
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    Was inevitable. A lot of these new guys have no staying power. They get a good few years in and then it’s over

    They’re not generational artists

  • DaeHan

    Because he was never that good.

    Kids just gassed him up.

  • Jan 6
    DaeHan

    Because he was never that good.

    Kids just gassed him up.

  • Jan 6
    Himothee

    Gunna better

  • Jan 6
    inspoeater

    Everyone in mainstream rap outside of a few select dudes is making basic background music that only marginally makes you nod your head and any superlatives beyond that is because everyone else is gassing some s*** up and you don’t wanna look out of touch. Alternatively you inexplicably don’t feel anything they do once the larger zeitgeist say they fell off. Everyone an NPC now.

    Carti next when Music drops then Veeze this fall. Niggas dont have no taste and tbh the deeper rabbithole is that 106 and park and magazines and s*** played that role in prior generations, now its just “the timeline”

    This made me realize that we will never have rappers like Ye or Lil Wayne

  • Jetpack

    Was inevitable. A lot of these new guys have no staying power. They get a good few years in and then it’s over

    They’re not generational artists

    That's literally 99% of all musicians in the history of music lol